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Question Transfer BLUE key chips to make 2 new BLUE keys, will it work?

I know, I know, red keys, blue keys blah blah blah, but heres a new one (I think).

Right, you may have read my other thread, but still trying to find a way round.

I have one RED key for my ,98 Punto. A relatively local locksmith has said he can come out to my car and make two new BLUE keys for it by taking the chips out of two old BLUE's and putting them in to two newly cut, not fiat, but repro BLUE keys, then programme them to my ECU with the red, as if they were new BLUE fiat keys.

Has anyone tried this before, or heard of it? Will it work? He is only charging 60.00 job done, whereas Fiat overall works out to 170.00.

Am I saving money or could it be costly in the long run?

What's the lifespan of chips?

Any information gladly received, as dead broke as my last car stolen and insurance paid pittance so had to fork out for new Fiat which is costing me an arm & leg so far with unkowns hidden problems, keys being the most hassle.

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Re: Transfer BLUE key chips to make 2 new BLUE keys, will it work?

aslong as you have red key thats ok, however 170 for 2 keys Surely its not that much for 2 original blank mk1 punto keys. I reckon 40 max! You can programme them yourselves in seconds with red key.
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Re: Transfer BLUE key chips to make 2 new BLUE keys, will it work?

Yep, fraid so, Fiat dealers Palmers in Watford charge 54.00 per new blue key, then I'd need them cut @ 4.00 each, then back to Palmers to have them programmed, (as they said I shouldn't try myself) for another 57.00. So actually just over 170.00 all told!
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Re: Transfer BLUE key chips to make 2 new BLUE keys, will it work?

programming them yourself is easy ( I dont even charge for it!) and there is a guide here anyway....a blank panda/GP key is 40 so 54 is too much,try elsewhere. Do you really need new keys?
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Hi there, yes, I only have Red and apparently you shouldn't use it all time, only to programme the 2 Blues then you should use them. Using the REd all the time scrambles the ECU so I've been told, so my Punto living on borrowed time I think.

When the Blanks from Fiat are ordered and sold to me (I'm going to ring round to try and get a better price), do they come coded, or literally blank, as apperently they both need to be coded, but a different code to each other, and the red, to enable the Red key to programme them?

If they arrive literally Blank, would it be Fiat dealers that adds the codes? Is that why I wouldn't be able to "programme" myself?

What I was thinking of doing is finding the cheapest Fiat dealer then asking them to post them to me as the further from London I go will most likely be cheaper, then I'll get them cut and programme myself, but obviously only if my fears and questions above can be answered.

I am aware that I would need them cut to my red to fit the ignition.

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Update -
I rang round a fair few Fiat dealers from London to Essex and a few more. All quoted around 55.00 for a Blue key, so x 2 = 110.00, then I would need them cut myself 8.00, then need to go back and have them programmed 27.00 per key = 54.00. So all told 172.00

So today locksmith blokey is sending someone out to me (only because when I went to his shop Saturday the young lad didin't know what to do) to cut and programme 2 fake Blue fiat keys for me for 60.00.

I'll keep you posted as to how it goes - keep your fingers crossed for me, i'm a little worried as not much ever runs smoothly for me.
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Re: Transfer BLUE key chips to make 2 new BLUE keys, will it work?

Most timpsons will do the key cut and reprogramme for 25 quid, There is one in the sainsburys where i work and thats what they said it was when i asked. anything else and its a rip off
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Re: Transfer BLUE key chips to make 2 new BLUE keys, will it work?

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Has anyone tried this before
yes, more than once.

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Will it work?
yes, as long as your red key is working.

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He is only charging 60.00 job done, whereas Fiat overall works out to 170.00.
timpsons could save you a tenner, but you would need to let them borrow a couple of blue keys from a mk1 punto, bravo, brava, marea or cinq to copy the key codes to your new keys.


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significantly longer than you will live
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Oakey Dokey - Red Key, 2 new Blue Keys

Just had locksmith visit, he transfered 2 old fiat chips from Blue keys to 2 new not fiat casings, then, after about 3 attempts, managed to programme them into my Punto using my master Red key. Job done (hopefully). He charged 60, plus I tipped him a fiver, so 65 all told.

I rang Timpsons over the weekend when I was in Essex as don't have one here in Middlesex. They said that because my car was between 1994 and 2000, a fitter would have to come out to my car and take the ECU system off to programme 2 new blues into my system, which would cost around 276 quid!!!!

Anyway, friendly, helpfull Locksmith blokey's details, in case anyone around my area of Middlesex needs the same or similar:-

STEVE @
GREENFORD SECURITY SERVICES
107 GREENFORD AVENUE,
HANWELL
W7
0208 578 7995

That's one of my new (to me) Punto problems sorted (I hope), now onto the next............I'll be back - no doubt
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I rang Timpsons over the weekend when I was in Essex as don't have one here in Middlesex. They said that because my car was between 1994 and 2000, a fitter would have to come out to my car and take the ECU system off to programme 2 new blues into my system, which would cost around 276 quid!!!!
no i meant you do that bit yourself using the red key (takes literally 1 minute).
all timpsons do is make the blue keys for you.

no matter, you got it done at a reasonable price.
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