Ouch so he wasn't seen with a 50w headlamp ... Yet people moan about push bikes with bright lights... Poor chap
Yes but the motorbike pays road tax.
Currently reading:
What's made you grumpy today?
the motorbike has an mot that makes sure its lights dont shine into other road users eyes you have to be really thick to think that blinding other road users makes the road safer to use
you have to be really thick to think that blinding other road users makes the road safer to use
- Joined
- Apr 8, 2004
- Messages
- 25,219
- Points
- 3,671
the motorbike has an mot that makes sure its lights dont shine into other road users eyes
I agree actually. I was temporarily blinded by one of these thick headed idiots on a back country lane last night. Not only did he have one on his bike he had one on his head too. Completely wrecked my "night" vision and I ended up hitting mud / gravel verge until my eye sight compensated :bang:
Try cycling with cars who don't bother dipping their full beams.in fact how many drivers dont do this for peds? Had it many times when I used to run at night.
- Joined
- Apr 8, 2004
- Messages
- 25,219
- Points
- 3,671
Not turning them off fast enough is completely different to going out with the sole purpose of blinding over one out there. Worse than HID kits.
I didn't say not fast enough.I mean simply not bothering
Hell no would I dip my lights for a pedestrian..if you are blinded close your eyes and stand still till I've passed. Preferable to me dipping my lights for the 1st runner in a group than taking out one running 40 yards behind him because my view range has now halved.
Bikes there is a significant difference between normal lights and helmet mounted line of sight ones..especially if the rider looking directly at passing traffic cos you know can't imagine when a cyclist would look at a passing car...
So by that a blinded motorist should slow or stop till I've biked past?
114
You MUST NOT
use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other road users, including pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders
where is the bit that says "unless you are on a cycle then you can dazzle and cause as much discomfort to anyone you like" ?
rule 114 is in the section General rules, techniques and advice for all drivers and riders (103 to 158)
Last edited:
Interesting view. So the pedestrian should stand with their eyes shut whilst you plough on . Apparently you are incapable of slowing down to pass them on dipped lights and ensuring the road is clear.
There are no consequences to a blinded pedestrian looking away from a car for a few seconds...they are travelling at a walking pace literally they are not going to leave the road and end up in someones front room. Whereas if I don't see them or their friends there are massive consequences.
Also I did not say I did not dip my lights for bikes..just said the idea of blinding someone who is driving 1.5 tonnes of metal at you is slightly counter intuitive.
None? How does the pedestrian know the car isn't heading towards them?
You are quite frankly demonstrating an unbelievable amount of disdain and self importance.
However thanks for proving my point so admirably.
- Joined
- Apr 6, 2012
- Messages
- 5,066
- Points
- 1,163
The number of people who failed to clear the condensation from their windows and lights this morning as I cycled home from my night shift.
Talk about running the gauntlet. :bang:
Talk about running the gauntlet. :bang:
- Joined
- Apr 8, 2008
- Messages
- 16,742
- Points
- 3,186
Disdain and self importance don't come into it..if someone is walking in my lane towards me on a road with no pavement then my actions are important if I do not see them and hold my line then both of us is going to have a very bad day. If you can't see that it's in both our interests that the one with the deadly weapon has the best opportunity not to use it then that's your problem not mine.
Sounds like a great argument to dip your headlights and use a safe speed.
Unfortunately you are the problem here. You simply don't see it.
Maybe you need more light.
No the problem is that you have read my post as...I like to go ripping past pedestrians at 90 miles an hour on back roads in the middle of the night. At no point did I say I do not slow down or take other considerations like leaving them a lanes worth of room, however that is still dependent on my having seen them..hence the need for lights.
Well that reads to me like you make no consideration and drive on with your full beams on. If you slow down,then it cuts down your braking time and gives you more room for reactions.
However simply stick with your barging on with full beams and the peds safe as long as they shut their eyes.
