are they any good as the price difference between them and a gsr makes them tempting.

the GSR is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay superior to the k&n's!!

you're guaranteed to get some sort of bhp increase, where as you may get a nice noise from the k&n, you may actually lose bhp!!

You won't even get a noise difference out of a panel filter as it sits in the same air box. Unless you go the saxo route and drill big f*ck off holes in the box!

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Carl, Why are you asking again when you got your answer less than 24 hours ago (see (G) Will It Fit??
GrandePuntoMark )???????

Panel filters will be a bit better than standard but nothing major.

KnN "induction kit" isnt cheap. You are paying £70 odd for a filter and a bit of tube that you can bend. You sit the the filter directly on the throttle body which then sucks in lots of hot air meaning the engine looses a bit of performance as they thrive off cold air.

Kop32 said:

Carl, Why are you asking again when you got your answer less than 24 hours ago (see (G) Will It Fit??
GrandePuntoMark )???????

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wanted a more opinion as it is very tempting (seen them for £50) against the gsr @ £169.

and im curious cuz all im really interested in is the sound rather than the performance gains.

Its an 8v. You make it sound like its quick you just look like a prick. You put a GSR on it and make it sound quick and also a bit faster then that is fair enough.

just remember carl, the price difference says it all, its like a stagg, and a les paul, one is cheapo nasty quality, the other is one of the finest musical instruments in the world that costs alot more!!

punto_matt said:

Its an 8v. You make it sound like its quick you just look like a prick. You put a GSR on it and make it sound quick and also a bit faster then that is fair enough.

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I just answered this question in a post that you have surely read less than 8 hrs ago why start another post and not just ask for information in the same post eesh:bang:

Anyways in case it helps anyone else...

Panel filter will give you a small improvement in power and by small I mean very small probably 1Bhp if your lucky, benefit is you don't have to change them, you can clean them saving you money and you get a very slight change in exhaust note if your into that sort of thing.

K & N filter i.e cone on top the TB is worse than useless. Youe engine sounds chavvy & will perform worse due to lack of direct airflow and your throttle body drinking hot air with little oxygen from the top of the engine bay. Also there is a chance that you get the grease from the cone onto your MAF as it's so close and then you are well and truly buggered.

GSR filter will give you 4-5 Bhp increase and a 5-7 Nm increase in low end torque. It is more expensive but it is engineered specifically for your engine. The hose will give a proper flow of cold oxygen rich air into the tb with lower resistance and better flow characteristics. The cone is well away from the MAF so you sensor will stay intact. The bracketry to hold it in place is ridiculosly well engineered and it looks sexy. Your exhaust note will change a bit, although modding purely for sound is something that has always baffled me.

The aim with any induction system is to lower the resistance of the path the air has to take between the outside world and the cylinder whilst keeping it cool and oxygen rich with an appropraiate flow rate and turbulence for the engine.

If you really want some induction roar buy these::devil:

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KnN are good filters its just the positioning of there "induction kits" is crap. If they were routed properly ala gsr style then they would be just as good.

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Why have you quoted me?

punto_matt said:

KnN are good filters its just the positioning of there "induction kits" is crap. If they were routed properly ala gsr style then they would be just as good.

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I think they do a viper kit or something like that with a hose kit but it costs mroe than the gsr lol

punto_matt said:

Its an 8v. You make it sound like its quick you just look like a prick. You put a GSR on it and make it sound quick and also a bit faster then that is fair enough.

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lol the rhyme just makes it sting that bit more

They do but only for a few models.

James1989 said:

lol the rhyme just makes it sting that bit more

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LOL yeah always make me laugh when people post mods to make their car sound better.

I'd rather have a quieter car then went like stink

Then again if money was no object I'd have a superchaged V12:devil:

K&n

money no object? jet fighter plane!

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money no object? jet fighter plane!

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lol rocket GP, someone do a photoshop please:devil:

lol think of the road tax what kind of emissions does it do well umm it has 50,000 pounds of thrust an burns 100litres a second..

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lol think of the road tax what kind of emissions does it do well umm it has 50,000 pounds of thrust an burns 100litres a second..

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think about filling it up