Is there a diagram for these? as ive read the hand book from front to back and i cant find any refference, I dont trust the jack that comes with the car and i dont want to do any damage by jacking/ propping it in the wrong place.... The fords ive had in the past have always had a diagram showing the safe places to jack/place axle stands/ use a 2 post lift on the car....

thanks

On the sills in positions arrowed.....

(I even coloured it in for you with a go-faster stripe aswell)

T14086 said:

On the sills in positions arrowed.....

(I even coloured it in for you with a go-faster stripe aswell)

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Would you really put a trolley jack under these points. I did look at these points when rotating wheels front to rear and they really are not designed for trolley jacking. The jack could slip quite easily. These points are designed for a boot mounted jack that slots directly into the jacking points.
Just realised I could be talking bol....s. as I am not a qualified mechanic, however, would be a bit concerned about putting a trolley jack under these points, an axle stand would be very unstable.

I normally use anything that looks sturdy Eg. rear suspension arm etc..

i have found when using a trolley jack its best not to use the sills directly --i have placed a piece of wood 2x4 just behind the sill and then jacked the car on this--although use the same places as illustrated

the sill is the most common jacking point on most cars. 2 post ramps are put on the sills 99% of the time. As mentioned the jack may slip, i dont see how it can tbh i jacked up many cars at work on the sill and not had a problem.

heres somthing on the fiat site - http://www.fiat.co.uk/Content/?id=2368

there using a bottle jack

jaybee said:

i have found when using a trolley jack its best not to use the sills directly --i have placed a piece of wood 2x4 just behind the sill and then jacked the car on this--although use the same places as illustrated

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Yes, this is what I generally do. Do prefer older car's, much easier to find a sensible jacking point.

wellfan said:

Would you really put a trolley jack under these points. I did look at these points when rotating wheels front to rear and they really are not designed for trolley jacking. The jack could slip quite easily. These points are designed for a boot mounted jack that slots directly into the jacking points.
Just realised I could be talking bol....s. as I am not a qualified mechanic, however, would be a bit concerned about putting a trolley jack under these points, an axle stand would be very unstable.

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Pic comes from GP technical manual......but I did colour it in as bored

So i take it its on the same points the OEM scissor jack then?? and if so which side of the sill edge? outside edge or under the car (can get some pics to explain what im trying to say if it isnt clear)

(as i hope you understand i dont want to wreck my body work)


Oh and T cracking use of paint

Andy Monty said:

So i take it its on the same points the OEM scissor jack then?? and if so which side of the sill edge? outside edge or under the car (can get some pics to explain what im trying to say if it isnt clear)

(as i hope you understand i dont want to wreck my body work)


Oh and T cracking use of paint

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I remember jacking up the driver's side front of my wife's Fiesta a number of years ago. The jack seemed to be working okay, ie. expanding, however, the car was going nowhere. After I heard a loud creaking noise I thought I better stop and investigate. Looked under the car and noticed the jack disappearing into a void. Opened the driver's door and the floor of the car had a very large raised dent in it. The carpet mat was kind of perched on the top of it. I had obviously placed the jack under a very thin area of sheet metal and not on a strengthened area. Have always been ultra cautious since then. Also managed to drive the same car up onto my ramps, forgot to stop in time and drove right over them again. Ended up with the ramps embedded in the body of the Fiesta. Think that car was jinxed. My wife broke down in it on one occasion and foolishly tried to push the car onto the verge area herself, she slipped and the car rolled back over both her legs.

I'm suprised that 'T' doesn't really know this one....maybe because he uses a 'Ramp' all day!
Anyways like 'T' says if you're using the supplied scissor jack with the car then you position it at the "Arrow" points near the front or back wheel...on the "Sporting" models the positioning arrows are marked on the lower plastic body molding.

Now if you're using a regular, proper hydraulic jack with a round or square shaped lifting head it's a completely different story.....put that under the sill at the lifting point and you will probably bend the metal and crack the paint
(it's what happened to me when I tried it this way!)....so I went to a Fiat dealership and they showed me a G. Punto up on the ramp and where to jack up. For the front:
You have to get down and look under the car near the front jacking point.
You will see a square metal box about 5 inches by 5 inches with a hole 2" cut out of the middle. This is positioned about 8" deep from the side of the car This is the place that you jack the front up.
You must have a piece of wood about 6" by 6" between the head of the jack and the car.....otherwise like me you will start to bend the metal edges of the circle...lol This is a strengthened point specifically for using a hydraulic jack.....if you don't use this point you will push into the floor!

The 'Rear" jacking point is placed kind of weirdly to the back of the car just over the 'Halfway" point! Look around that area of the car.....another square.....pressed metal box that is part of the floor, with a round hole in it.
Fiat should put this info down in the handbook.
I Hope this helps someone.

once you have jacked the car up, where do you put the axle stands? Im thinking of getting some so i can paint my calipers

Nice one Superboy a quick look under my car i found the points you was talking about can see teh marks in the underseal where teh fiat dealers lifts have bit into the underseal and found a section where they have chiped a large chunk of under seal off so have smothered it in grease for now anyhow i took a couple of pictures...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16533236@N04/1966813814/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16533236@N04/1965989065/

why dont you post them on this site

tommy_8884 said:

why dont you post them on this site

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because my gallery is full.

Superboy said:

I'm suprised that 'T' doesn't really know this one....maybe because he uses a 'Ramp' all day!
Anyways like 'T' says if you're using the supplied scissor jack with the car then you position it at the "Arrow" points near the front or back wheel...on the "Sporting" models the positioning arrows are marked on the lower plastic body molding.

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Some of us have been decorating all day One point is garages not allowed to use wood blocks,must use the hard rubber pads on the ramps with tie-clamps.

Anyway why does anyone want to jack their cars up,you get those flat tyre sealent bottles with the car

(p.s. I use a different front jack point but it depends on ramp uesd)

as with any car it will depend on age and condition , friend off mine used the "official" jacking points and ended up with jack inside of his car because like the other post, the floor was rotten and had been covered over with a large dose of thick uderseal, so would say might be best to poke around with a screwdriver in the point you are inteding to use beforehand, unless you are certain of condition

T14086 said:

Anyway why does anyone want to jack their cars up,you get those flat tyre sealent bottles with the car

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I'm suprised,or maybe not, that you've made a comment like that considering the lengthy discussions in the past on the merits of the can of gunk that you get in place of a spare wheel. Are you just trying to open up a can of worms?

There's no substitute for a jack and spare wheel.

who me:devil: