General Is it worth remaping a 1.2 8v GP

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Hi all with all this talk of remapping I am curious as to weather I should get my 1.2 remapped. I dont want the extra 6 or 7 HP for bragging rights or boy racing, but I would very much like to have a bit more response and pull in the car and get rid of some of the flat spots.

I learnt to drive for a bit in a 1.2 corsa and its was dire compared to my 1.2 in the GP, but im thinking some extra pull would be nice for motorway overtaking and the like.
I know this will affect my insurance but id consult with them prior to doing any mods.

A couple of questions as well
1. Would a remap void my warranty?
2. Could it be possible that the remap would be reverted when the car is serviced?
Ok any advice much appericated,
Thanks

Jason
 
Nope doesn't void warranty as it leaves the OEM software untouched (i.e all the fault codes etc). Only thing it changes is the fuel mapping.

And i've heard of the mappings being reset at dealers with software upgrades etc. If this does happen I believe the likes of angel tuning will remap it if it happens for a very small fee as long as you got the original mapping through them.
 
What Chris says is right, i think Angel charged you something like £25 to come back out an re-do it, just to cover travel expenses.

With regards to it voiding warranty its a bit iffy. If they wanted to they could blame a re-map for other related faults and refuse to fix them. Its highly unlikely though that they would ever detect it in the first place.

Rich
 
Thanks guys for the replies..
From an engine perspective is it worth doing, will the difference be notable, or will be wasting my money as its only a 1.2, a lively one :slayer: but still.


Jason
 
Nigel from Angel remapped a friend of mines 1.2 16v punto,along with an induction kit he aceived another 13bhp I believe,doesn't sound a lot but as a percentage of the original bhp has made quite a difference.ie if your original bhp is 70 and it went to 83,thats enough to feel the difference.
 
Im with John, if you look at pairing it with an induction kit then it will be worth your while. You will obviously never see massive gains but you know that. It will certainly give you a smoother drive and if you do much motorway driving it should be more capable of cruising at higher speeds.

I suppose it comes down to whether there is anything else you would rather spend the cash on.

Rich
 
What is the mileage on your 1.2 I would not recommend any mapping work be done to any car until you have at least 2k on the clock :)
 
What is the mileage on your 1.2 I would not recommend any mapping work be done to any car until you have at least 2k on the clock :)

Hi ive done about 1500 miles so far, not using it all the time.. But Have done some long distance journeys etc.
Why should I wait...I dont know an awful lot about cars (n)


Jason
 
hey jason... it's not the fact that you HAVE to wait, it's more a case of SHOULD wait so that you can tell the difference, i.e. the more you drive the car standard, then the more you will notice it when it's mapped.

i agree with your reasons for it too, it will alter the whole way the car drives and puts the power down, the pick up, and the fuel economy.

good luck mate. :)
 
hey jason... it's not the fact that you HAVE to wait, it's more a case of SHOULD wait so that you can tell the difference, i.e. the more you drive the car standard, then the more you will notice it when it's mapped.

i agree with your reasons for it too, it will alter the whole way the car drives and puts the power down, the pick up, and the fuel economy.

good luck mate. :)


Thanks for the advice.. I see what you mean and Ill wait. I just got an email back from Angel tuning, and they said they are only doing this in September with the induction kit. So ill have to wait till then in any case. The other thing is, will the induction kit affect my warranty and will the Fiat dealers refuse the service?

Jason
 
Hey,

The 1.2 8V is an engine used more so in Cinq/Sei engine conversions and also in the original Puntos so I guess your question would have more response in those sections regardless of it being a GP.

As for information I can help you ;) ...

The 1.2 8V is actaully an engine that you can do alot of messing with as it by no means is an engine that is on the edge.
While I could just start by putting idea's in your head I wont as Id seriously consider waiting a few more thousand miles before spending serious money as your engine will still be very tight from the low milage and by no means considered "loose" so in return still not performing as well as it will.

As for remapping, it will make a small difference as any engine improvement does but dont expect anything major as this simply wont be the case with a 1.2 8V petrol engine, see diesels for big re-map results :yum:!

Anyway onto some basic mods that help and wont cost you a massive amount of money.

1. Induction kit £80 - £120 - I recommend that you look into a decent induction kit from GSR "Oldschool on this forum" as the bolt on kits from K&N, Green and other such companys actaully result in lower performance than the original airbox due to the design they suck in hotter air than the original airbox did. As for warrenty, most kits can be taken off and on with ease just dont bin the old airbox (y) and insurance, well depends on your age!

2. Spark Plugs £40 & £40 HT Leads - With my experiance from my previous car which was a fully worked & tuned Seicento Abarth I found that Denso Iridium spark plugs offered a much better spark then the original plugs and these can be ordered from http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/ and you can find car code on the Denso website (I have done the hard work for you and the code for the Spark-Plug site for the Iridium plugs on your car is IXU22).As for HT leads, you wont really see a difference with the new plugs unless you deal with your leads and the Magnecor KV85 leads which are an 8.5mm core and with Iridium plugs you will find that the car has a much smoother feel when reving to the red line and generally feels more willing!

3. Petrol £current going rate - Every little helps and if you fill up only with V-Power "like a religion" your engine will stay cleaner internally (trust me on that) and with the extra octane of 99 the ECU will learn over a period of time or 300 miles to use the V-Power more effectly as the ECU must adapt to the induction kit as well and any other mod not forgetting that the more you mod a car it will always work better with more octane as it has a more violent combustion.


That is just some of the basic mods you can do to the car yet its the real engine mods that will make the difference and thats where a remap would be best used so that all the add-ons are all working together.

Anyway here is my list of some advanced engine mods that would really help you get some ponys yet these come with bigger prices!

1. Stainless Manifold £200 - £245 - One of the biggest theifs of your precious power is the standard manifold found on your car as its restrictive and basically just a bad design :D. A stainless manifold really frees up some BHP and torque and has a really nice sound to it :slayer:

2. Head work £60 - £300- Head work can be one of the best places to start and you can seriously go wild on the head although the 1.2 8V head is more restrictive than others its still got some potential. Firsly you could have all the ports polished and or even enlarged although you might need a larger throttle body or injectors based on engine type to make any difference while having all the valves polished and guides so on so on.... Skimming the head to the markers will also raise compression which gives a bigger bang :D but if skimmed to much can also cause a bigger bang.... :eek: LEAVE to professional precision metal workers.

NOW I CANT BE BOTHERED WITH THE DETAILS

3. Lightweight Flywheel
4. Re-map
5. Turbo conversion :D :D :D

There is alot more than these but Im now to tired to think

Goodluck!
 
it depends on what your dealership is like. drom previous experience they dont usually mention anything, but if you get a funny one then they might pick up on it. you could always change it back to standard for warranty work...

and you dont need to take it to fiat to get it serviced, as long as they stamp the book and are v.a.t. registered it doesn't matter as they can no longer 'refuse warranty work'

HTH. :)
 
Hey,

The 1.2 8V is an engine used more so in Cinq/Sei engine conversions and also in the original Puntos so I guess your question would have more response in those sections regardless of it being a GP.

As for information I can help you ;) ...

The 1.2 8V is actaully an engine that you can do alot of messing with as it by no means is an engine that is on the edge.
While I could just start by putting idea's in your head I wont as Id seriously consider waiting a few more thousand miles before spending serious money as your engine will still be very tight from the low milage and by no means considered "loose" so in return still not performing as well as it will.

As for remapping, it will make a small difference as any engine improvement does but dont expect anything major as this simply wont be the case with a 1.2 8V petrol engine, see diesels for big re-map results :yum:!

Anyway onto some basic mods that help and wont cost you a massive amount of money.

1. Induction kit £80 - £120 - I recommend that you look into a decent induction kit from GSR "Oldschool on this forum" as the bolt on kits from K&N, Green and other such companys actaully result in lower performance than the original airbox due to the design they suck in hotter air than the original airbox did. As for warrenty, most kits can be taken off and on with ease just dont bin the old airbox (y) and insurance, well depends on your age!

2. Spark Plugs £40 & £40 HT Leads - With my experiance from my previous car which was a fully worked & tuned Seicento Abarth I found that Denso Iridium spark plugs offered a much better spark then the original plugs and these can be ordered from http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/ and you can find car code on the Denso website (I have done the hard work for you and the code for the Spark-Plug site for the Iridium plugs on your car is IXU22).As for HT leads, you wont really see a difference with the new plugs unless you deal with your leads and the Magnecor KV85 leads which are an 8.5mm core and with Iridium plugs you will find that the car has a much smoother feel when reving to the red line and generally feels more willing!

3. Petrol £current going rate - Every little helps and if you fill up only with V-Power "like a religion" your engine will stay cleaner internally (trust me on that) and with the extra octane of 99 the ECU will learn over a period of time or 300 miles to use the V-Power more effectly as the ECU must adapt to the induction kit as well and any other mod not forgetting that the more you mod a car it will always work better with more octane as it has a more violent combustion.


That is just some of the basic mods you can do to the car yet its the real engine mods that will make the difference and thats where a remap would be best used so that all the add-ons are all working together.

Anyway here is my list of some advanced engine mods that would really help you get some ponys yet these come with bigger prices!

1. Stainless Manifold £200 - £245 - One of the biggest theifs of your precious power is the standard manifold found on your car as its restrictive and basically just a bad design :D. A stainless manifold really frees up some BHP and torque and has a really nice sound to it :slayer:

2. Head work £60 - £300- Head work can be one of the best places to start and you can seriously go wild on the head although the 1.2 8V head is more restrictive than others its still got some potential. Firsly you could have all the ports polished and or even enlarged although you might need a larger throttle body or injectors based on engine type to make any difference while having all the valves polished and guides so on so on.... Skimming the head to the markers will also raise compression which gives a bigger bang :D but if skimmed to much can also cause a bigger bang.... :eek: LEAVE to professional precision metal workers.

NOW I CANT BE BOTHERED WITH THE DETAILS

3. Lightweight Flywheel
4. Re-map
5. Turbo conversion :D :D :D

There is alot more than these but Im now to tired to think

Goodluck!

Chuck passenger & rear seats out,saves few pounds in weight:)

it depends on what your dealership is like. drom previous experience they dont usually mention anything, but if you get a funny one then they might pick up on it. you could always change it back to standard for warranty work...

and you dont need to take it to fiat to get it serviced, as long as they stamp the book and are v.a.t. registered it doesn't matter as they can no longer 'refuse warranty work'

HTH. :)

Always has been this way..but gotta get annoying service light put out & there are 3 software updates available which you wont get from V.A.T garage......oh & some things are at warranty managers discression.
 
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