Technical Noise from steering

Andy Monty · Jul 23, 2008

Hi chaps i have a problem (well it is a Fiat

)

only noticed it in the past couple of days.

when turning the wheel at slow speeds im getting a noise its not coming from the passenger compartment area more under the bonnet

(might be able to trace it better when my dad comes home as its hard to turn the wheel whilst in front of the car)

its a regular noise right through from lock to lock irrespective if the ignition is on or off

the best way to describe it is it sounds like a mattress spring going

had a look at the technical recalls section (before T tells me off

)

5156 - Lower steering shaft.To check shaft has been flared sufficently at one end otherwise a 'knock' can occur.No potential damage/fault/safety issue. 95% of affected cars done.

now i mentioned this at the first service and they said they had checked it and my car wasn't affected but then again we all know what some dealers are like dont we

the car has just gone through 15K if that has any relevance

and more importantly will this be covered by the 3rd year dealer warranty and will i have to pay for them to diagnose the fault and does it have to go to the dealer it was purchased from??

many thanks (to all those who have read this far

)

Andy Monty · Jul 23, 2008

Right dad got home (he does have his uses)

whilst turning the wheel left to right slowly i managed to locate the problem but am not sure how to sort it on the face of it it looks simple but then again......

its the right hand front Coil spring...

when the wheel is turned the left hand spring tracks with the wheel smoothly

however the right hand side doesn't it appears to stop then move in small steps as the wheel is moved.

i have run my hand all over the spring and cant feel any cracks/ gaps/ broken spring

im assuming there is something at the top of the spring just below the turret that's sticking as i cleaned the whole area with a APC mix and rinsed and it quietens it down and the spring moves fine till it dries out

any help gratefully received

Mal126 · Jul 23, 2008

Andy Monty said:
Hi chaps i have a problem (well it is a Fiat )

only noticed it in the past couple of days.

when turning the wheel at slow speeds im getting a noise its not coming from the passenger compartment area more under the bonnet

(might be able to trace it better when my dad comes home as its hard to turn the wheel whilst in front of the car)

its a regular noise right through from lock to lock irrespective if the ignition is on or off

the best way to describe it is it sounds like a mattress spring going

had a look at the technical recalls section (before T tells me off )

now i mentioned this at the first service and they said they had checked it and my car wasn't affected but then again we all know what some dealers are like dont we

the car has just gone through 15K if that has any relevance

and more importantly will this be covered by the 3rd year dealer warranty and will i have to pay for them to diagnose the fault and does it have to go to the dealer it was purchased from??

many thanks (to all those who have read this far )

Top suspension leg mounting/bearing seizing, should be covered by third year, can take to any Fiat Dealer to process, be suprised if you were charged for diagnosis.

Andy Monty · Jul 23, 2008

thanks Mal

going to have to be booked in after my holl's now what sort of time does the job take??

EDIT:

now i have some idea what im searching for it doesn't look like i'm alone...

https://www.fiatforum.com/grande-punto-technical/150198-steering-safety-issue.html

Mal126 · Jul 24, 2008

Andy Monty said:
thanks Mal

going to have to be booked in after my holl's now what sort of time does the job take??

EDIT:

now i have some idea what im searching for it doesn't look like i'm alone...

https://www.fiatforum.com/grande-punto-technical/150198-steering-safety-issue.html

It's probably around an hour to do BUT, parts have to be available, space available at dealer etc, may have to leave all day !, for third year to cover you have to be original owner or be registered with car care as the new owner, they will also ask for service history, although that fault is not applicable to service history.
now i have some idea what im searching for it doesn't look like i'm alone...
for sure

Andy Monty · Jul 24, 2008

Mal126 said:
It's probably around an hour to do BUT, parts have to be available, space available at dealer etc, may have to leave all day !, for third year to cover you have to be original owner or be registered with car care as the new owner, they will also ask for service history, although that fault is not applicable to service history.
now i have some idea what im searching for it doesn't look like i'm alone...
for sure

thanks again its booked in for the day on wednesday but they want £30 for the 1/2 hours labour to investigate the fault where i can show them it in less than 30 seconds

The car was a pre registered from the dealer in question it has a FSH (by the same dealer) and i have the 3rd year warranty card......

Superboy · Jul 24, 2008

Thanks very much - got the same problem myself with a G. Punto Sporting.
The mattress spring description is brilliant - exactly right!
Was supposed to go in last week but I had to cancel - got to re-book.
It would be great if you could let me know what part will be needed.
Thanks.

Andy Monty · Jul 27, 2008

now the cars booked in for Tuesday and guess what it hasn't made a sodding noise since i booked it in :bang:

still going to take it although knowing my luck they will say there's nothing wrong with it :bang::bang::bang:

Mad Mike · Jul 27, 2008

Andy Monty said:
now the cars booked in for Tuesday and guess what it hasn't made a sodding noise since i booked it in :bang:

still going to take it although knowing my luck they will say there's nothing wrong with it :bang::bang::bang:

If it has a tendency to seize then maybe you are driving the car more frequently or maybe the fine weather means that water is not getting in and the bearing seizing.

Superboy · Jul 27, 2008

Pity - mine's doing it all the time - I expect to lift the bonnet and find a Slumberland bed under there......!

Andy Monty · Jul 28, 2008

Mad Mike said:
If it has a tendency to seize then maybe you are driving the car more frequently or maybe the fine weather means that water is not getting in and the bearing seizing.

well I first noticed it on a hot day and not had any rain since its probably freed itself off car gets used the same roughly every week

but we'll soon see

Andy Monty · Jul 29, 2008

well dropped the car off an hour ago fingered crossed they will sort it

Andy Monty · Jul 30, 2008

Well they found a fault despite the noise stopping they are going to replace the upper leg assembly (what ever that is i'll find out when i pick it up friday)

Superboy · Jul 30, 2008

That's great - a big help to me.
Thank you.

cwillis · Jul 30, 2008

ive noticed the same in mine but i started having the problem about 6 months ago then it stoped. now its back and it dosnt do it all the time just every so often.
Is it the Same problem ?

if not any ideas what it is because my car is going in to fiat on monday for new glove box, fuel cap & parcel shelf. so i might aswell get this sorted while its in there.

Maybe its the power steering Pump

Superboy · Jul 31, 2008

Good lord.....all cheap cars have an electric motor to help you turn the steering wheel......not a pump in sight.

Just tell the dealership the problem and let them sort it out.

cwillis · Jul 31, 2008

Cheers ill tell them on monday and sorry im a bit of a noob lol

Superboy · Jul 31, 2008

Didn't think you were that at all - just thought it was common knowledge.

cwillis · Jul 31, 2008

lol sorry for being so dumb then lol

Andy Monty · Jul 31, 2008

Yipee its back one day earlier than expected :slayer:

Right the dealership replaced the Damper and the noise has gone and the steering feels nice and light again (almost like city mode was on when it wasn't)

its part number 2 they replaced on here if the link will open directly into eper..

http://eper.fiatforum.com/eper/navi...=3&WINDOW_ID=1&SGRP_COD=1&SGS_COD=0&DRW_NUM=2

EDIT now the rain has eased off had a look and they have actually replaced the spring itself not the damper (it said damper on the sheet she had though she showed me it) so now im confused but it works so i aint complaining

edit#2 looks like they have blathered the rubber hats in the turrets with some form of lube...

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