Technical NEMO Service indicator

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Could not find any specific forum for the Nemo, but maybee this can be the place to find some info ?

My Nemo is a 2009, 1.4HDI

Service indicator reset:
Is this just a instrument cluster thing on the Nemo ? Or does it also have the DPF oil quality stored in the ECU ? (It's a Bosch ECU (51862587)).
If it's an Cluster only thing, is there any free software to use to reset, (With the ELM i/f, or Vag com i/f).

Seats:
Is there any other Fiat model that uses the same front seat's (Except the Fiorino) ??


Tnx

Tomas
 
Downloaded MultiEcuScan and tried to scan for nodes, found:

Engine
UNKNOWN/UNSUPPORTED
ISO Code: FD 86 EF 08 4F

ABS
Bosch ABS 8 ESP
ISO Code: EC 07 07 86 D5

And if I understand the info for the tool correctly, Fiat has a non standard ODB connector, and a adapter is needed to communicate with the instrument cluster (Called yellow adapter), correct ? If so I should be able to find the cluster by making an adapter.. Then I guess I have to invest 50Eur to enable the reset service stuff in the software....
 
Although the Fiorinos, Qubos, Bippers and Nemos were a joint venture with Sevel LAV, Fiat used their own 1.3 Multijet (both 75 & 95hp) and 1.4 FIRE (1368cc 68hp) engines in their Fiorinos and Qubos.

Citroen and Pug used only their own 1.4 HDI (1398cc 69hp) and 1.4 TU (1360cc 72hp) engines in the Nemo's and Bippers, so it's doubtful any Fiat software will interface with your Nemo.

Or would you be likely to get any help on here with it!
 
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Downloaded MultiEcuScan and tried to scan for nodes, found:

Engine
UNKNOWN/UNSUPPORTED
ISO Code: FD 86 EF 08 4F

ABS
Bosch ABS 8 ESP
ISO Code: EC 07 07 86 D5

And if I understand the info for the tool correctly, Fiat has a non standard ODB connector, and a adapter is needed to communicate with the instrument cluster (Called yellow adapter), correct ? If so I should be able to find the cluster by making an adapter.. Then I guess I have to invest 50Eur to enable the reset service stuff in the software....

sorry to hear you have not managed to communicate through OBD port,

what did you want to do with seats..??:confused:
 
Re: NEMO Service indicator > Lexia 3 & S.1279

You need a capable tool, and a multiplexing interface adapter.

We've got the collision of several standards :OBD-II(EOBD), SAE J1850 & Can-bus, plus the differences in implementation by manufacturer & sub-system supplier (Bosch/Lucas/Marelli/Delphi etc.)
The standard EU mandated diagnostics info is only a subset.

All systems (SRS, ABS etc.) may be available on other pins but that is manufacturer/model/supplier specific. As you have discovered the Qubo/Fiorino system can be interfaced with a specific cable.

Decent independent garages should charge about £15 for an undocumented service reset, as they have universal diagnostic gear worth £3k or more which will probe and handshake with whatever it may find.

But, you can talk to the Nemo/Bipper with the Citreon/Peugeot specific Lexia 3 software plus an S.1279 multiplexer interface, should be around £100.

Software installation can be an issue, you may have to set it up on Win XP if you have an old laptop spare. Best idea is to confirm then buy from one of the UK suppliers, rather than rely on translated Chinese. (search OBD ECU diag tool)
 
Current status in my quest to reset the service light...

I have found out that there is 2 CAN busses present in the car,

CAN-C , a high speed bus, for Engine / ABS / Gearbox - This is connected to the standard pins (6 & 14) and the bus that the software found via the ELM based adapter.

CAN-B , a "low" speed bus, for infotainment, SRS, Instrument cluster... This bus looks like it's wired to Pin 1 & 9 in the ODB connector.

Guess if I just wire the ELM adapter to +/- & pin 6->1 & pin 14->9, The software should find the instrument cluster...



For the seat question, looking to replace the seats, and it might be easier to find nice replacements from the breaker yard if there is a wider selection of donators to look for...
 
If some else is looking for the same information:

Bought a cheap ELM i/f that looked like there was posibility to re-solder the wiring as stated above.

Used AlfaObd to test, and no probs,

Tested device: Instrument panel Marelli (EP)
___________________

2015-12-22 20:30:47
Boot Software Identification Supplier: Not defined
Application Software Supplier: Not defined
Application Data Identification Supplier: Not defined
______________________
Distance till next servicing: 28317 km
Display dimming level: 1
Buzzer volume level: 1
Button volume level: 1
Headlamp position corrector: 0
Gear lever position: Automatic
Engine speed: 0,0 rpm
Fuel gauge: 18,0 %
Vehicle speed: 0,0 km/h
Water temperature: 21,0 °C
Battery voltage: 12,5 V
Outside temperature: 10,0 °C
ECU Time Stamps (RAM): 3232050 min
ECU Time Stamps From Key On (RAM): 315 sec
Odometer: 85148,0 km
Odometer at last rewrite: 0,0 km
Number of rewrites: 0
Functioning time (eeprom): 3231922 min
Time since Key-On (eeprom): 1365 sec
Key On Counter (EEPROM): 12352
ECU Time first DTC detection (EEPROM): 0 min
ECU Time Stamps from KeyOn first DTC detection (EEPROM): 0 sec
Key-On counter alignment: 12
Load status: Not active
Number of servicings: 3
Date last servicing: 28/10/2015
Distance after last servicing: 83465 km
Servicing interval read: 30000
Seat belts alarm: Activated


Now, do anybody know of any free software that can do a service reset ?

Regards & Happy x mas !
 
Although the Fiorinos, Qubos, Bippers and Nemos were a joint venture with Sevel LAV, Fiat used their own 1.3 Multijet (both 75 & 95hp) and 1.4 FIRE (1368cc 68hp) engines in their Fiorinos and Qubos.

Citroen and Pug used only their own 1.4 HDI (1398cc 69hp) and 1.4 TU (1360cc 72hp) engines in the Nemo's and Bippers, so it's doubtful any Fiat software will interface with your Nemo.

(thats wrong because mines a nemo and it has a 1.3 multijet just like the corsa d, combo and bipper have)

the nemo bipper florino and qubo are all based on the grande punto and corsa d
 
Bippers and Nemos used PSA engines from launch.
Either the TU3 or the DV4 HDi (which was a joint PSA/Ford venture) from launch in 2008 until sometime in 2010, after which both manufacturers changed to Fiats 1.3 MJ's.

Which is why some diesel Nemo's and Bippers are known as 1.4hdi's and others 1.3 multijets and some are CO2 rated at 119g/km (DV4) and some as 113g/km (MJ).

The Fiorinos/Qubos only came with Fiat FIRE or MJ's.
Which is why diesel Fiorinos and Qubos are only known as 1.3 multijets.

Seeing at the OP's van is a 2009, and as written, with a 1.4 HDi, (and not a 1.3) it will certainly have a PSA derived engine and not a Fiat unit.

I take it your Nemo will have been built after the change over and be a 2010 onwards model, hence the MJ engine.

You can see on eurocarparts webpage,
before 2010 just offers a 1.4 diesel option (DV4)
2010 gives 1.4 and 1.3 diesel options (DV4 & MJ)
and 2011 onwards, just the 1.3 diesel option (just MJ)

With a quick look under the bonnet, the 1.4 HDi's oil filler cap is on the rocker cover.
The 1.3 MJ oil filler cap is on a separate pipe, front left which had the filter and heat exchanger incorporated.
 
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hi i have citroen nemo 1.3 hdi
changed the oil & filter but it still giving the error code p253f
can anybody guide me how can i reset the service indicator
as my van is in limp mode
thanks
 
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