Hello all.
Problems again with my FIAT Ducato X250 2.3 litre 2007 (built 2006) Ducato motorhome.
Had problems just over a year ago with a split turbo hose and P0638. Garage replaced both the hose and throttle body (sticker on it says (refurbished).
All ok but did have P0638 coming up occassionally which cleared after a few re-starts.
Did notice the odd stutter, almost like taking your foot off the accelerator and back on again but always cleared and ran fine. BTW, did the same with cruise control on.
However, last week both P0638 and P0403 came up and the van when into limp'ish mode with no power above 2500-3000RPM, so decided it was time to do some checks.
For P0403 (EGR exhaust gas recirculation) found the EGR solenoid did not appear to be working, waiting for a replacement now so no further with this.
For P0638 (throttle actuator control range) started by removing the throttle body for bench testing. Checking onto the plug found high resistance between every combination of pins so decided the body could be faulty. Got another one (slightly different design but should be ok on the van) and re fitted it putting in new gaskets as needed, which the garage had not done. Took the old body apart and when the electricery bit was broken open there was a definate burnt smell from it and a very black burnt looking PCB.
Reset all OBD codes but they came back when the engine was started.
Checked volts on the plug from the engine ECU but got 'strange' readings. Definate earth, but only 3 and 3.5 Volts on the plug, would have thought one should be either 5 or 12 Volts to activate the throttle ?.
After a quick check with a local vehicle electrician (3 weeks before he could look at van) he suggested there could probably be a broken/corroded wire which I have heard of before.
So just now (between rain showers) I have taken all the covering off the loom that runs from the ECU to the engine. No noticable corrosion, but will buzz through every wire to be certain.
Slightly suspicious the ECU might be the problem, but due to replacement and re-programming costs want to be certain wiring is good before I look further into it.
So, am I missing something obvious, or should I continue checking wiring and sensors ?.
Thanks, Martin.
Problems again with my FIAT Ducato X250 2.3 litre 2007 (built 2006) Ducato motorhome.
Had problems just over a year ago with a split turbo hose and P0638. Garage replaced both the hose and throttle body (sticker on it says (refurbished).
All ok but did have P0638 coming up occassionally which cleared after a few re-starts.
Did notice the odd stutter, almost like taking your foot off the accelerator and back on again but always cleared and ran fine. BTW, did the same with cruise control on.
However, last week both P0638 and P0403 came up and the van when into limp'ish mode with no power above 2500-3000RPM, so decided it was time to do some checks.
For P0403 (EGR exhaust gas recirculation) found the EGR solenoid did not appear to be working, waiting for a replacement now so no further with this.
For P0638 (throttle actuator control range) started by removing the throttle body for bench testing. Checking onto the plug found high resistance between every combination of pins so decided the body could be faulty. Got another one (slightly different design but should be ok on the van) and re fitted it putting in new gaskets as needed, which the garage had not done. Took the old body apart and when the electricery bit was broken open there was a definate burnt smell from it and a very black burnt looking PCB.
Reset all OBD codes but they came back when the engine was started.
Checked volts on the plug from the engine ECU but got 'strange' readings. Definate earth, but only 3 and 3.5 Volts on the plug, would have thought one should be either 5 or 12 Volts to activate the throttle ?.
After a quick check with a local vehicle electrician (3 weeks before he could look at van) he suggested there could probably be a broken/corroded wire which I have heard of before.
So just now (between rain showers) I have taken all the covering off the loom that runs from the ECU to the engine. No noticable corrosion, but will buzz through every wire to be certain.
Slightly suspicious the ECU might be the problem, but due to replacement and re-programming costs want to be certain wiring is good before I look further into it.
So, am I missing something obvious, or should I continue checking wiring and sensors ?.
Thanks, Martin.