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Re: Doblo Speeding Warning - IMPORTANT

So with regards to the question, and having seen the link from Hellcat, with that vehicle, i would seize. Technically the driver could be arrested for Dangerous Driving
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So with regards to the question, and having seen the link from Hellcat, with that vehicle, i would seize. Technically the driver could be arrested for Dangerous Driving
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So with regards to the question, and having seen the link from Hellcat, with that vehicle, i would seize. Technically the driver could be arrested for Dangerous Driving
Thanks. And thanks to Hellcat too!

Thing is, are Traffic Officers aware to look for this? Would they all know what to look for and what to do? This law is being flagrantly disregarded, mainly I think due to ingorance. How about if the tyres are correctly inflated, new or legal tread pattern and depth, would it still constitute an offence that would stick?

It really concerns me that these people are willing to put their own, and MUCH more importantly, the lives of other Highway users at risk doing this.

There is no need, wider wheels and tyres are fine by me when covered by bodywork as required. Safe Modifying is fun and individual, all in favour of that but within the law and safety requirements.
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Lol... so you going to put these Threads to bed then Hellcat?
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Guess I'm just a grumpy old man at heart.... where as you're just a gru......
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All traffic officers have to be certified vehicle examiners. There qualifications for this allows them to remove vehciles from a road, if its is concidered to be in a dangerous contition, regardless of what the MOT tester says. The MOT test just for advice does not extend to section 67 RTA1988.

in simple terms even if your MOT tester says its ok to have wheels stretched, I would remove from the road, possibly arrest the individual, for Dangerous driving, and summons the person responsible for fitting. This comes down to USE CAUSE PERMIT, at the very least report for summons.

The driver ALWAYS uses, however in this instance the 'Modder' being a third party, is guilty of an offence of Permitting an offense.

With regard to informing DVLA of change of vehicle type, yes. Otherwise we will submitt a correction report, at the same time of possibly reporting for summons A V23 is the required paperwork for this

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in my experience the most common problem is boys racing around with uninsured vehicles as their insurance has not been altered to reflect the changes. The vehicls are usually first class owing to all waking moments being spent modding!
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A motorcar is an MPV, (mechanically Propelled Vehicle) other than a motorcycle or invalid carriage, which is constructed to carry a load or passengers and which is below a certain unladen weight. These weights are
[FONT=Times New Roman] if the vehicle is constructed solely for the carriage of passengers and their effects, is adapted to carry not more than seven passengers exclusive of the driver and is fitted with inflatable tyres, the maximum weight is 3050 kg
if the vehicle is constructed or adapted for use for the conveyance of goods or burden of any description, the maximum weight is 3050 kg (increased to 3500 kg for gas propelled vehicles)
in any other case the maximum weight is 2540 kg
I agree there is some confusion but not about "what a car is" it was about speed limits for goods vehicles.

Can you confirm that the speed limit for a van less than 2 tonnes mam on a dual carriageway is 70 mph and for a van over 2 tonnes mam is 60 mph?

The problem is that a Doblo van's mam is just a tiny bit over 2 tonnes, I think it's 2.030 and alot of van owners didn't realise they were breaking the speed limit by doing 70 mph on a dual carriageway.

It would be nice to have this confirmed by a traffic cop .
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Hi, new here - I have a 1.3 multijet Cargo 56 plate from new which is bang on 2000kg which is why I got it rather than the 1.9. (Mainly round town work anyway).
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would this apply to my my bro's scudo van then??
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this is quite interesting as quite a few 4x4 fall outside the 2000kg limit

unless i have misundestood this and quite a few Bmws mercs etc
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have read every page on this thread and still confused I've got a 2004 1.9 jtd doblo cargo sx is it lower speeds or higher speeds pls just a yes or no answer thanks
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On the direct .gov.uk web site if you search for speed limits you will find a section from the highway code

The doblo MPVs are van-derived cars and most are over 2 tonnes. This vehicle type does not appear to be covered and neither are cars over 2 tonnes. Where does say a 12 seat landrover 110 sit in this scheme?

When buying a doblo mpv they are sold by the fiat car show rooms and not the commercial vehicle division which would lead me to believe it is a car if I were to have bought one new. Does the buyer have an obligation to determine the roots of the design of the vehicle they drive?

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Gross vehicle weight I believe is over 2 tonnes and it is a van not an MPV therefore 70 on motorway, 60 on dual carriage-way and 50 on single carriage-way.

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Re: Doblo Speeding Warning - IMPORTANT

There are FOUR weights on the VIN plate

1) Gross laden weight allowed (not kerb weight)
2) Maximum allowable front axle loading
3) Maximum allowable rear axle loading
4) Maximum Gross 'train' weight

2) & 3) when added together will in most cases exceed 1)
4) less 2) is the maximum load you can legally tow (braked trailer / caravan etc.)

If 1) is less than 2000kg then you should be legal at up to 70mph on motorways and dual carriage ways.
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