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DO NOT EVEN TRY IT !
My story-
So, I have an '07 1,9 multijet 105HP, that siezed a water pump, broke the timing belt and destroyed the top end of the motor. So, after doing nothing for 2 years, and now without another car and a clod snopwy french winter approaching, I finally decided to do somehting about it. So I sourced a low milage motor for the same (223B1000) and as delivery was free I had it delivered.. Except when it arrived, it was clearly not a 223B at all but a 119A5000 130HP for a Punto.
So after some exchanges with the seller (who insists that the motor he removed himself from his crashed 2007 Doblo) I was left with 2 options, Resell it or try and make honey from pig ****.. I decided that Pig **** was the better option.
So, I’ve bought a full gasket kit, and started striping both motors.. What I have learnt is that there is NOTHING common, after the block, cylinder head, camshaft and rocker cover. Inlet manifolds, sump, fixed coolant lines, even the oil pump itself is different! Even the crankshaft pulley for the timing belt is different!
Second, these motors were built not to be repaired. They have not only not made things simple, but expressly tried to make it harder to remover certain parts (covering bolt heads on the oil pump with the PS pump support for example) . It was built to discourage repair.
Third, NOTHING is accessible. I was an mechanic back in the 90s, and now I work in the prototype division of in industrial mobile plant manufacturer. I see how thing are designed and test them myself. Here, they have again made things impossible to access, with little or no regard. No surprise service costs are high, it takes hours to access standard parts. Try changing glow plugs, or getting the alternator out ! And the random use of Allen key, torx and polydrive is just to make it harder, no manufacturing advantage
Anyway, tomorrow is the point where the 2 motors make their swap in the engine bay. The new motor is already 70% mounted up the old one still resting in the engine bay with the gearbox attached… Will this eventually work ? Well I hope so, the wife has lost hope and just thinks I am being stubborn, but I’m not letting this one get away from me !
Anyway, if you hear of an ’07 Doblo catching fire and a half naked man laughing insanely as he hurls abuse at it, you’ll know why..
My story-
So, I have an '07 1,9 multijet 105HP, that siezed a water pump, broke the timing belt and destroyed the top end of the motor. So, after doing nothing for 2 years, and now without another car and a clod snopwy french winter approaching, I finally decided to do somehting about it. So I sourced a low milage motor for the same (223B1000) and as delivery was free I had it delivered.. Except when it arrived, it was clearly not a 223B at all but a 119A5000 130HP for a Punto.
So after some exchanges with the seller (who insists that the motor he removed himself from his crashed 2007 Doblo) I was left with 2 options, Resell it or try and make honey from pig ****.. I decided that Pig **** was the better option.
So, I’ve bought a full gasket kit, and started striping both motors.. What I have learnt is that there is NOTHING common, after the block, cylinder head, camshaft and rocker cover. Inlet manifolds, sump, fixed coolant lines, even the oil pump itself is different! Even the crankshaft pulley for the timing belt is different!
Second, these motors were built not to be repaired. They have not only not made things simple, but expressly tried to make it harder to remover certain parts (covering bolt heads on the oil pump with the PS pump support for example) . It was built to discourage repair.
Third, NOTHING is accessible. I was an mechanic back in the 90s, and now I work in the prototype division of in industrial mobile plant manufacturer. I see how thing are designed and test them myself. Here, they have again made things impossible to access, with little or no regard. No surprise service costs are high, it takes hours to access standard parts. Try changing glow plugs, or getting the alternator out ! And the random use of Allen key, torx and polydrive is just to make it harder, no manufacturing advantage
Anyway, tomorrow is the point where the 2 motors make their swap in the engine bay. The new motor is already 70% mounted up the old one still resting in the engine bay with the gearbox attached… Will this eventually work ? Well I hope so, the wife has lost hope and just thinks I am being stubborn, but I’m not letting this one get away from me !
Anyway, if you hear of an ’07 Doblo catching fire and a half naked man laughing insanely as he hurls abuse at it, you’ll know why..
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