Hi

Cinq Sporting..

Just fixed a split on the pipe which joins to the screen washer bottle and now the front jets work great. The rear wipe works but no wash? I investigated further and found another split in the pipe as it bends out the inner front wing. So fixed that with a pipe connector, but still no wash on rear screen....

Can anyone help with this, a few pointers?

...and yes there is water in the screen bottle....

h10ndr said:

Hi

Cinq Sporting..

Just fixed a split on the pipe which joins to the screen washer bottle and now the front jets work great. The rear wipe works but no wash? I investigated further and found another split in the pipe as it bends out the inner front wing. So fixed that with a pipe connector, but still no wash on rear screen....

Can anyone help with this, a few pointers?

...and yes there is water in the screen bottle....

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if you can hear the pump running then try the non-return valve in the pipe, its the little round thing near the bonnet catch i think had problems with these on all my cinqs just remove it and replaqce it with a bit of pipe brake pipe is ideal!

Or goto FIAT an buy a new valve for less than £1

Thing is, I can't really hear the pump going when doing the rear wash/wipe. Although the front washers work fine. It is using the same pump?

...I'll check the non-return valve thingy too....

Thanks

Seperate pump for each, stand outside the car and get someone else to operate the rear or do it through an open window.

Liam

this all sounds like a familiar problem to me. I searched through loads of threads before I found out what was the problem.

When I bought my Cinq the switch for the rear washject operated the front jetwash (???) I took it all to bits the w/e and had a good old shufftie to see what gives.

First arse is that you need to jack the car up and take off the front o/s wheel to then remove the wheel arch cover. When I took a look at the connections and pipes to mine its no wonder it stops - both pipes perished and covered in road crap and the front pump doesn't work at all. I think what whoever has owned the car before me has done is swap the connections from the front to the back to make the front jetwash work.

If your return valve is nacked you'll know cuz when you operate the jetwash, water shoots through the middle of it into the air (obviously have your bonnet open to see this).

I don't know if you can source new motors from anywhere other than Fiat - they told me you can't buy them as they come as a complete unit, bottle and both motors.

I found two washer pumps for £10 in working order at the local scrappy. Both pumps in the Cinq I was working on were knackered, though all rubbers were in good nick.

After replacing both pumps with the new units, the front one worked straight off. However the rear one didn't, even though the pump itself was working..

I traced the hose back to the one way return valve thing near the bonnet catch, and soon realised, as suggested earlier in this thread, that it was the cause of the problem. After a short go at trying to repair it, I gave up and joined the two pipes together with a bit of thinner OD pipe.. Taped it up and needless to say both washers now work faultlessly.

I'm not sure of the reprocussions of running the pump without a one way valve, but it was only to get the car through an MOT.

goldflame said:

I found two washer pumps for £10 in working order at the local scrappy. Both pumps in the Cinq I was working on were knackered, though all rubbers were in good nick.

After replacing both pumps with the new units, the front one worked straight off. However the rear one didn't, even though the pump itself was working..

I traced the hose back to the one way return valve thing near the bonnet catch, and soon realised, as suggested earlier in this thread, that it was the cause of the problem. After a short go at trying to repair it, I gave up and joined the two pipes together with a bit of thinner OD pipe.. Taped it up and needless to say both washers now work faultlessly.

I'm not sure of the reprocussions of running the pump without a one way valve, but it was only to get the car through an MOT.

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I did EXACTLY the same as that. replaced the two pumps for a tenner, removed the non-return valve thingy, and taped it back up. bingo.

Oggy. It's Scott. I replaced your washer pumps....

I think the valve just keep water close to the washer jets so it's more instant rather than the water coming all the way up the tube so if anything it maybe slower than normal and maybe but more strain on the motor, £1.odds from Halfrauds.

Liam

wouldnt have thought removing it was a good idea, its obviously there for a reason else they wouldnt put it on.

BroomYellow said:

wouldnt have thought removing it was a good idea, its obviously there for a reason else they wouldnt put it on.

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To be honest, your obviously correct, but Oggy has no intention of keeping the car that long and neither of us seemed to worried about it.

I presume it was there to stop any backflow of the water into the pump or something. If I ever see one kicking about or have one spare when I sort the pumps out on my disAstra, I'll replace the one on the Cinq.

Eitherway. It works faultlessly without it, unfortunatly it didn't work with it as the little spring inside the one way return feed thing, was er.. Not springy.

Not to worry.. I wonder if we've solved "h10ndr"'s problem?