Technical IAW ECU Live Mapping & Tech Info

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Technical IAW ECU Live Mapping & Tech Info

Woj, in your 16F file.bin is shifted of some bytes because sw release is different
Anyway is the cut-off reset delta threshold (8 rpm/lsb) ;)
 
Yes, you have to study one of these. After find same tables and values in another sw version will be quite simple. Calibrations are almost all the same.
 
Yes, you have to study one of these. After find same tables and values in another sw version will be quite simple. Calibrations are almost all the same.



this is what I have already done with different versions and I noticed that the punto 1.1 SPI has a different management of cinque or sei SPI.



I started the challenge of disassembling iaw and it will be a huge challenge for me knowing that I am not a computer specialist so this language is for me incomprehensible. :bang:

I try the experience with IDA software.



The analysis of the "bin" goes well but afterwards to understand the language it is another story. :confused:
 
I hadn't IDA software, recently I try with that only to obtain flowchart and is much better than the disassembler I used.
Anyway is a long work, to speed up you can work with emulator, change variable on diagnostic service to read them, but it is not enough if you doesn't understand how to ecu works...
Before you have to understand if you are ready to spend thousands of hours on it :bang:
 
that's what I did with the emulator and the diag at the same time by modifying data and seeing what it was doing in real time. But we can not see everything and understand.
IDA also allowed me to have an architecture and also to determine maps or bin but understand their operation and their impact remains a big challenge and thousands of hours spent in front of the pc screen.

I am studying the operation of the 68CH11 hoping, with the maps I found, to learn a little more.



It's just because I'm curious because the car works well with pap 36 and E85 and that's what I wanted
 
Hello everyone, I got too excited, I still have a lot of trouble running :cri:


When starting the engine the idle speed rises very slowly to the target value. Despite a crancking reviewed I can not have an immediate accelerated regime.


I can not find the map idle stepper valve at startup. :cry:

I think that in running, map F195 (index rpm) manages the idle valve but not the position at startup..

I found a start-up correction map depending on the coolant temperature (F9ED; function????) and another correction acting after the start always depending on the coolant temperature (F9F5 which seems to be a general injection correction; do you agree with that?)

and a last map indexed on the coolant temperature (F9FD) that seems to vary the value of stepper intergral gain.??

Are you agree about that?

what can I do to change the startup and have an idle speed immediately compared to the target value?


here s my bin.

thanks for all ;)
 

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Hello,

I am Peter from Poland. I started read this thread almost a year ago and I want to thanks woj for his hard work.
I have Seicento sporting 1,1 SPI with Cat Cams 270° and there is similar problem like motoguzzinix described - to much fuel on idle...AFR is about 11.

Thanks to wojs xdf I pulled up idle to 1100 rpm and I advanced a little bit (1,0 - 1,5°) ignition idle/closed throttle. That improved idling but it is still to much fuel and I try to find right map(s) to correct this.

Concerning last pasto post - I think there is problem with slowly raising idle rpm after start, because engine is overflooded. I can observe similar behavior of my engine from time to time...

I think that you found new interesting maps. I modified xdf to fit B1DE.bin and I puted these new maps into tables. Unluckily I dont't have emulator, so it is difficult to me to verify changes.
Regarding map F195 I am not sure - I found one rpm map (16x1) but it starts from address F184.
 
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Hello Piotrp
I am happy that there is someone who is interested in sei.

with the emulator I found a lot of map indexed on WT and battery voltage.

I also compared the bin of sei and punto to find the maps. For the F184 it seems not to exist on the bin CCS1108.

I run 100% E85 with a 36mm pap from a citroen saxo.

The start is ok but the engine speed does not rise idle target during the warm-up phase.

I am on vacation but at the end of August I will resume testing. I will be happy to share with you the knowledge and try to find who does what in the maps :)
 
Hi guys, sorry my bad english, it's google translate! I write to you because I have a seicento sporting 1.1 with iaw remapped and I have the checksum problem. The injector light comes on. Which bits do I need to change? my file ori is upload
 

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Hi,

I don't know how is your bin - because there is a few versions. But if you can use wojs xdf with your bin all of you can do is just switch off Eprom Error Flag - F943 hex.

Sorry for my english...
 
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Nothing to do, I made the changes you recommended to my new mod file but unfortunately the light continues to turn on.
 

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Hi,

I don't know how is your bin - because there is a few versions. But if you can use wojs xdf with your bin all of you can do is just switch off Eprom Error Flag - F943 hex.

Sorry for my english...

Of course I also tried your method without any success.
 

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Are you sure that it is cheksum? because the file I sent to you is ok with cheksum
 
Nothing to do, I made the changes you recommended to my new mod file but unfortunately the light continues to turn on.
don t make any change on your mod; just put him on your car; if you change anything on your mod, your cheksum will not be ok
 
I made some changes to my mod and the ideal would be to recalculate the checksum on the new mod. How is the checksum calculated?
 
I made some changes to my mod and the ideal would be to recalculate the checksum on the new mod. How is the checksum calculated?

which software you use? tuner pro? winols?

My winols calcutates automatically.

On tuner pro it is necessary to set the calculation of the cheksum in "xdf header info", cheksum.
It began at 6000 to FFFF
Store adress FFAE with size 2 bits


On your Mod, I saw your put very hard ignition advance, you're not afraid about rattling??
Do you know function of map F194 and F1A4?
 
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