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General Legality of rear seat removal

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General Legality of rear seat removal

yeh. each to there own. im not a all out speed demon all the time, but i do love a bit of quality music. not loud just quality. so still going for the install. and it wont matter soon anyway! :p lol
 
in the words of a great man "POWER" lol if you aint guessed i'd rather have speed than tunes but i will be keeping radio and the front speakers and mounting 6x9's in the rear quaters and no false floor or sound deadening as it weights far to much and will slow the 1/4 mile time down
 
Just get 6" rather than 6x9, will weigh less and sound better :D

I don't see the problem with ICE tbh, it's less weight than having a passenger in the car if done properly and it's not like I can do particularly fast on the way to and from work with all the f'ing cameras so I may as well enjoy some tunes :)
 
lol. as you dont have rear struts i dont see a point in a rear brace. purley asthetical in my mind. but a rear arb would be good. still going to get a rear bar but i dont think there is going to be any flex when ther is a solid axel running across the base of the car.
 
clock34 said:
lol. as you dont have rear struts i dont see a point in a rear brace. purley asthetical in my mind. but a rear arb would be good. still going to get a rear bar but i dont think there is going to be any flex when ther is a solid axel running across the base of the car.
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Hmmm not exactly true, as the rear seats is just really just a bar with the form above. It does strength the chassis in some sort. If you do remove the rear seat, have a bar or some sort made up.

Or cut the rear bench up and use that bar!

Ming
 
ycming said:
Hmmm not exactly true, as the rear seats is just really just a bar with the form above. It does strength the chassis in some sort. If you do remove the rear seat, have a bar or some sort made up.

Or cut the rear bench up and use that bar!

Ming
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see i thought this too which is why i will be welding in some bars across the boot as well as a roll cage, which yes i know will add alot of weight but seriously would you want to crash a cinq on a drag strip at speed and not have a cage
 
the bar at the bottoom? thats about 5mm thick? that surely isnt strong enough to stop any chasis flex and as the rear seats are also split seats there is no support at the top of them. when i go off a kerb a wheel at a time you can hear the back creak so i dont think the seats do anything. if it was a solid bench mabee yeh.
 
mariocinq said:
in the words of a great man "POWER" lol if you aint guessed i'd rather have speed than tunes but i will be keeping radio and the front speakers and mounting 6x9's in the rear quaters and no false floor or sound deadening as it weights far to much and will slow the 1/4 mile time down
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I knew you'd turn! ;)
 
clock34 said:
the bar at the bottoom? thats about 5mm thick? that surely isnt strong enough to stop any chasis flex and as the rear seats are also split seats there is no support at the top of them. when i go off a kerb a wheel at a time you can hear the back creak so i dont think the seats do anything. if it was a solid bench mabee yeh.
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totally agree with that, my first sei sporting was fully stripped and i swear i couldn't tell any difference
 
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clock34 said:
the bar at the bottoom? thats about 5mm thick? that surely isnt strong enough to stop any chasis flex and as the rear seats are also split seats there is no support at the top of them. when i go off a kerb a wheel at a time you can hear the back creak so i dont think the seats do anything. if it was a solid bench mabee yeh.
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Not sure about the sei, but in the cinq is much thicker than 5mm. It is close to the thickness of of novitec front upper brace.

Ming
 
as clock said, a proper rear arb wouldn't go a miss, but a brace across where the seats are will do nothing.. Aaron has/is creating one for the track cinq he's building. Not seen an update in a while but iirc he's modded a front arb to fit with some custom mountings. pretty sure there was picks in the build thread.
 
i would definatly and am going to get a rear arb made up.

a brace inside looks good tbh and i may get one if i strip it. but it is pure looks. as about 4inches below that is a big fat axel bar. to truley stop abit of flex surely you would have to go higher up?
 
i would definatly and am going to get a rear arb made up.

a brace inside looks good tbh and i may get one if i strip it. but it is pure looks. as about 4inches below that is a big fat axel bar. to truley stop abit of flex surely you would have to go higher up?
 
For those ho are not familiar with Aaron & Emma's track cinq project:
J333EVO said:
The rear anti-roll bar is a modified 19mm anti-roll bar from the front of an MGF shortened and welded together.

Its held in place with front Cento anti-roll mounts and bushes on custom made mounting plates welded to the rear beam.

It is then fixed at bottom with Lancia integrale EVO1 rose joints (any rose joints would do but had these at hand) with custom made mounting brackets fixed to the bottom damper bracket, this will be further modified so the bottom of rose joints is at least in line if not higher than bottom of the damper to give better road clearance.
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https://www.fiatforum.com/cinquecento-seicento/166019-cinq-abarth-project-1-4-16v-6.html
 
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