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Question Central locking wiring info

Ive bought a universal central locking kit from ebay as my central locking keyfob is broken and have been quoted loads from fiat to make a new remote key.
So this kit ... I'll scan the wiring diagram later, but im just trying to determine, there are four different diagrams depending on the setup ..

1 : "for cars equipped with central lock and lock motor on drivers side door"

2 : "for cars equipped with central lock but no motor on drivers side. Add a master motor and rod"

3 : "For cars equipped with cdentral lock and a control switch on the drivers side"

4 : "For cars equipped for air compressor controlled central door locks. EG Audi, VW mercedes"

Each option has its own diagram. I think its option 1? ..
The diagrams are pretty weired 'll scan them in a bit if someone could help me decipher that would be great..

Is that ok ?

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Re: Central locking wiring info

number one i think
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Re: Central locking wiring info

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number one i think
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Re: Central locking wiring info

I'd go with number one as well. This thread in security might help when it comes to wiring as it's not in Haynes
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I'd go with number one as well. This thread in security might help when it comes to wiring as it's not in Haynes
thanks again helz
Im going to have to get a haynes i havnt got one yet..

click for bigger picture, its a biggun!(56kers beware)

So i am going with number one, but now i have to decipher what the difference between "motor line" and "down, up, common" wires.
I think doing this without a haynes manual or much knowledge is going to end in a non working central locking?!
has anyone ever tried this kind of thing before?!
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Re: Central locking wiring info

Well mine is still sitting half fitted, the only thing (Tom and) I ever did was managed to turn the airbag light on The up and down wires are in the file in the link. Common line I would GUESS would be a live power line, but if someone could clarify that would be most helpful. Where are you based Laurie? Am thinking a day of combined messing might work it out
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Well mine is still sitting half fitted, the only thing (Tom and) I ever did was managed to turn the airbag light on The up and down wires are in the file in the link. Common line I would GUESS would be a live power line, but if someone could clarify that would be most helpful. Where are you based Laurie? Am thinking a day of combined messing might work it out
right-o uselful info thanks

Im based in devon, lil town called Honiton (im on the active map thing, but cant remember/find the link!)
Sounds great idea though
Just noticed your in carlisle
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Well mine is still sitting half fitted, the only thing (Tom and) I ever did was managed to turn the airbag light on
do you have the same sort of thing? Universal central locking kit?
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Re: Central locking wiring info

EDIT : Sorry for double post

according to the file in the link, if i read it right, assuming CDL stands for Central door locking, then the lock motor is in the o/s door harness.
Am i right in thinking o/s means passenger side? Wouldnt make a difference would it? As there isnt a wiring diagram for this setup. I cant imagine it would make a difference
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Re: Central locking wiring info

Negative switched central locking,

lock-white
unlock-light blue
both these wires located at wiring harness going into drivers door,so you can pick them up inside of 'A' pillar.
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Negative switched central locking,

lock-white
unlock-light blue
both these wires located at wiring harness going into drivers door,so you can pick them up inside of 'A' pillar.
cool, head for the a pillar then. Thank you.
T14086, did you look at the scan of the wiring instructions? I can't work out what the up, down and common lines are (in the diagram)
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Re: Central locking wiring info

cant read your diagram properly,but normally you connect the unlock &lock wires to the colours I have already mentioned plus you would also have to have a earth to switch the lock/unlock.From what I can read(see)of your diagram that is the yellow & yellow/black.
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cant read your diagram properly,but normally you connect the unlock &lock wires to the colours I have already mentioned plus you would also have to have a earth to switch the lock/unlock.From what I can read(see)of your diagram that is the yellow & yellow/black.
sorry, i just looked at the diagram, its all distorted, if you click on it, it zooms in and then its easier to read but ive cropped and resized it, hopefully this will be easier to read.
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so do you think that the wires "up" and "down" mean locked and unlocked? common meaning neutral? obvious! that hadnt occured to me until now .. D'oh..
I really appreciate your help.
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Re: Central locking wiring info

Quote Originally Posted by llol_slim
sorry, i just looked at the diagram, its all distorted, if you click on it, it zooms in and then its easier to read but ive cropped and resized it, hopefully this will be easier to read.
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so do you think that the wires "up" and "down" mean locked and unlocked? common meaning neutral? obvious! that hadnt occured to me until now .. D'oh..
I really appreciate your help.
Laurie
Try it both ways (keep keys in pocket!) to be certain before I would solder the wires from the alarm to the cars locking wires.Down probably means lock.Common would be any suitable earth point,thats the way these units normally work or on to a live if positive switched etc.
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Re: Central locking wiring info

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Try it both ways (keep keys in pocket!) to be certain before I would solder the wires from the alarm to the cars locking wires.Down probably means lock.Common would be any suitable earth point,thats the way these units normally work or on to a live if positive switched etc.
That could explain why mine didn't work, we went for a live instead of earth. Thanks
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Re: Central locking wiring info

ok cool thanks all, getting excited now.
This has gone from a "you'll be lucky" to "do-able"
Im planning on butchering a key to fit the flick-blade tonight.
I cant do the wiring as its raining and I dont have a garage Gives me a chance to buy a haynes manual anyway. (thats the silver lining to the bl**dy great grey cloud)
Thanks all :-)
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