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Old 25-07-2021   #2686
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Re: Coronavirus - The Thread :(

Morning Panda Nut. I'd like to also add my best wishes and hope your daughter is going to be Ok.

My perception of compliance here in Edinburgh is that most people are diligently wearing their masks where appropriate. It's very rare now to see someone not wearing one in the supermarket for instance and I'd assume them to be someone with an exemption. I had to go up to the eye pavilion recently to have my early stage macular degeneration assessed. There is almost nowhere to park up there and I knew I would be getting those pupil dilating eye drops so wouldn't be able to drive. Mrs J is not very confident when she has to "loiter", avoiding the parking wardens, in the car, so I decided to go in the bus. I used to go all over the city by bus prior to the pandemic with my free bus pass, but have avoided them for well over a year now so I felt a bit nervous. In the event it was absolutely fine. Only 3 people on the bus and one of them was upstairs - all wearing masks all the ventilating windows open. I chickened out on the homeward journey and walked it - nice day and it only took me an hour and a half at a brisk pace. The eye drops make it a bit difficult to deal with the sun though and I felt a bit like I was in the bright sun depicted in the first parts of the film Pitch Black. One of the films I've got filed under "highly rated" in my DVD library: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2pVnm3z6EA

I totally agree with you over the stupidity of the "fully immunized" term. I think it makes some people feel invincible and people need to understand it does not impart invulnerability to this devastating disease. We all need to continue to be very careful, especially us "oldies" with all our other maladies and frailties.

I'm just catching up on the news on the TV as I'm writing this and they are talking about the money which has been spent by the government trying to contain Covid. The sums being mentioned are mind numbing and the wastage and incompetently awarded contracts are, I think, going to shock us all deeply - I'm hearing them say there are container loads of sub standard PPE which can't be used by the NHS as they don't meet spec and there are, so it's being said, many container loads of PPE which haven't even been opened yet. I know this Covid has taken us into "uncharted seas" but I suspect we are all going to be quite shocked when all the "washing" is hung out and we learn the truth (but will we?) about what went on.
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The Wife and I went out last night, the second time we've been out for a 'proper' night out in the last 4 weeks. The first time, full mask wearing was the norm, but last night, well, that was a completely different kettle of fish.

So, we live in a busy seaside town and there were plenty of people out last night, obviously a large percentage of which were holiday makers. We went to a seafront restaurant, it was packed and for the most part, not a mask in sight. Many of the diners were middle aged plus it had to be said. A couple of people after sitting within fairly close proximity of people they clearly didn't know, then put on a mask to walk to the toilet, filing past a restaurant full of people with whom they'd already been in close proximity to, so the mask wearing was pretty much a pointless exercise.

Anyway, we left the restaurant and we went to into a pub with a live band performing. The bar wasn't particularly packed, but of course no one was wearing a mask because they were all trying to enjoy the atomosphere.

And then there was the bus journey home. We got onto a double decker over half full. Very few people including the driver, wore a mask. The Wife and I did put a mask on and went upstairs to find we and a young woman were the only ones wearing a mask. The masks stayed on until the journey end.


Look I get it, people are scared. They're scared for themselves and they are scared for others and the general sentiment from some out there still appears to be, go back to a full lockdown, destroy the economy past any hope of proper recovery and wreck peoples mental health in the process. I don't consider myself in any way 'invincible' because I've had both jabs and I have to trust that the jabs will actually work seeing as I've had no tests for anti-bodies against the virus. The one thing though which I refuse to do however, is lock myself away and fester at home avoiding life.


My bottom line is, of course, I want everyone to remain safe and well. I will wear a mask when I deem it the most sensible thing to do, but as it stands, I'm choosing to get on with life whilst I can. That's not me with a 'damn the consequences' view for my own and everyone elses health, that's just me deciding I want to maintain a sense of 'normality' as far as normality can be defined in these extremely challenging times. Am I foolish? perhaps some may think so, but I'm feeling pretty good about life at the moment, despite the constant mongering of doom that some continue to espouse. It would seem however that judging from last nights experience, many many thousands of people appear to share my view. Perhaps we are all fools, who knows.
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I tested positive yesterday - results today.

Double vaccinated with astrazeneca.

thought i had a cold spell on Wednesday. Thursday night was freezing so put a blanket over the top of the empty duvet and was sweltering all night with a mild flu-like headache and muscular aches. Thinking back on Thursday day, had a funny taste with two packets of crisps - but still currently have sense of taste and smell. Last night not as warm in myself but still hot according to wife. - not in a good way obviously
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Sorry to hear that.. hope you all feel ok

Any idea where you caught it..?

Not done anything unusual this week?
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hope you get better soon, my grand daughter who is under the age for vaccination contracted the virus whilst on a break with close friends in Scarborough last week, not discovered until she arrived home in Cornwall where the family have been very careful since this all started so has caused a bit of a stink.
But, imagine how bad it could of been if you hadn't been vaccinated, "thank goodness for small mercy's"
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My workmate has an over-active immune system so cannot take the vaccine. She even reacted to the viral shedding when boss and I were 2nd jabbed.
However she has tested positive for antibodies so is probably safer than most regards transmitting the virus. But she has no jabs so she is of course persona-non-grata.

Why does the medical profession ignore the anti-science behaviour of government policy?
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I tested positive yesterday - results today.

Double vaccinated with astrazeneca.

thought i had a cold spell on Wednesday. Thursday night was freezing so put a blanket over the top of the empty duvet and was sweltering all night with a mild flu-like headache and muscular aches. Thinking back on Thursday day, had a funny taste with two packets of crisps - but still currently have sense of taste and smell. Last night not as warm in myself but still hot according to wife. - not in a good way obviously
daughter also has symptoms
How are you now and your daughter? Hope you are all okay.
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Thanks Malcom Thursday night was the worst night - following two nights had a temperature but not like that first night. after the temperature came a snuffly nose and a bit of a cough...snuffly nose lead to loss of smell... apart from that all ok (both of us) thank you.
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Sorry to hear that.. hope you all feel ok

Any idea where you caught it..?

Not done anything unusual this week?
no idea at all...maybe work, maybe daughter - we both had very similar symptoms at the same time....
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Re: Coronavirus - The Thread :(

Being the tender age of 75 I take a fair amount of interest in what's going on. However, I'm also more than a bit cynical when those that make the rules that we have to live by so blatantly refuse to follow the same rules. There would appear to be an immunity if you wear the right label.
I'm also of the opinion that a few well connected people are doing surprisingly well out of our misery.
But I am very 'old school' and also an advocate of common sense, for example: no-one bats an eye lid that approximately 50k people perish every year due to one form of flu or another, yet no-one rushes out to lock the country down, initiate jabs and passports, close down factories, shops, and bring the whole country to a stand still.
Why would that be I wonder?
Herd immunity is my answer, survival of the fittest.
If you start with the inevitable, everything else drops into place:
1: you were born to die.
2: You have a finite amount of time 'alive'.
3: Providing you are reasonably fit and well you won't die.
4: If you expire, you wasn't strong enough to start with.

No doubt that won't please a lot of people, but it's the truth, sadly not many people can take the truth, they prefer candy wrapped lies.

The biggest problem is that too many people don't want to do their own thinking or work things out for themselves, they expect life to be handed on a plate by the Government (or anyone except themselves) then have the audacity to moan and complain about it.

Last: I believe this Covid thing is being used as a control agent by anyone, such as Government bodies, left wing dingbats or someone with something to gain etc to control peoples thinking and the way they live.
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3: Providing you are reasonably fit and well you won't die.
Yes, not as though no fit and healthy people have died from Covid.

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Last: I believe this Covid thing is being used as a control agent by anyone, such as Government bodies, left wing dingbats or someone with something to gain etc to control peoples thinking and the way they live.
Keep hearing this. And to what benefit to you believe out of interest?
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Last: I believe this Covid thing is being used as a control agent by anyone, such as Government bodies, left wing dingbats or someone with something to gain etc to control peoples thinking and the way they live.
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Keep hearing this. And to what benefit to you believe out of interest?
It's funny, because this left-wing dingbat firmly believes that the only people who stand to gain anything from this are pharmaceutical companies, their investors, and China (from where all/most of the masks, testing kits, etc are coming).
But what do I know, I'm only 40, clearly at 75 you must know absolutely everything there is to know.
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I'm inclined to agree with your argument, added to your list has to be bodies closer to the Government who appear to have set up companies and holdings especially to deal with and supply the accessories required for such an undertaking.

What I would like to know is the TRUTH about what's going on.

The Ding Bat Looney Left are only interested in making everything a right wing catastrophe, yet they have no better ideas than anyone else.

Utter either common sense, or the truth, or both, to the ears of left wing ding bats and they're lost for anything sensible to say.

What the looney left really can't handle is the simple fact that other people have their own ideas of what sits right with them.

From what I have seen if your personal views either don't coincide or, better still, follow unquestioningly the views and ideologies of the looney left then you are not allowed a voice or a platform.

Well, they wouldn't want someone spreading views contrary to their own, just in case too many got some idea that maybe the propaganda the left are spewing out might have another side to it.

Whether you, or anyone else for that matter, has views that do not coincide with mine, I really don't care. You are welcome to your point of view, JUST THE SAME AS I.

So, instead of going off on a left wing ding bat rant, try remembering that your views are not the only one that counts.

Everything I said could, perhaps should, have been put over in a more cotton candy, all fluffy and soft, don't hurt anyone's sensitivities sort of fashion, but I say it the way it is, I don't have time at 75 to worry about things that don't worry me.
If it worries you or doesn't fit in your idea of how it should be, I don't think I'm about to lose any sleep over it.

By the way, you are showing your lack of perspective and your narrow minded attitude to suggest that 'at 75 I must know everything', that really is childish.

Typically looney left I suppose.

Have a pleasant day, I will.
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Another looney lefty ding-bat here.

As far as I can see, you're the only one that's ranting.

Age is no excuse for rudeness.

There's no point trying to engage with you on the issues, as you've clearly made up your mind, and are not open to reasoned argument. Waste of time. Bye.
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I agree with you and feel the same however to be fair, its not just the "loony left". The old left vs right stuff is dead imo, its now just loonies who cannot/will not see what is going on
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