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Hi folks. New here & to fiat but due to poverty & necessity have worked on many vehicles mainly Chrysler products, including engine rebuilds. Have to R&R alternator on son's Fiat 500. Having hard time finding directions. Any ideas. Thanks Cliff
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Hi folks. New here & to fiat but due to poverty & necessity have worked on many vehicles mainly Chrysler products, including engine rebuilds. Have to R&R alternator on son's Fiat 500. Having hard time finding directions. Any ideas. Thanks Cliff
Hi,
is this a Modern 4 cylinder 500..??

the basics should be on here I'll try and provide some links..

the North American 500 is not identical to the Euro spec ones.. but it'll be a start,

1400cc Panda - probably same motor - https://www.fiatforum.com/panda/4446...nda-100hp.html

useful basic info;https://www.fiatforum.com/500-guides...2l-engine.html

worth considering :- the alternator probably has a "brush-pack" that should be demountable..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-500-A...YAAOSwNnRYlYEX
it's sometimes possible to replace worn-out brushes with the alternator still in the enginebay..
could save work if full removal involves engine mounts.etc.

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Re: 500 alternator

You have confirmed the alternator is faulty AND checked or replaced the engine earth strap (under battery )which tends to fail.
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Thanks Charlie It's a 2012 Been fighting with it all morning Unfortunatly video does not apply to mine. Got 2 bracket bolts out but still tight are there more, where? Car sat all winter & alt seized Hoping I can replace bearings Thanks again
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Thanks Charlie It's a 2012 Been fighting with it all morning Unfortunatly video does not apply to mine. Got 2 bracket bolts out but still tight are there more, where? Car sat all winter & alt seized Hoping I can replace bearings Thanks again
Try searching for a new one from suppliers and look at the picture for mounting bolts?
It may need new discs too depending on how wet your winters are.
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It looks like alternator but still need bracket will keep looking Thanks
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"Almost" always there's 1 long through bolt and the tensioner bolt, occasionally there is two bolts plus the tensioner bolt, but not often nowadays.
Totally remove both bolts and give it a leaver see if it moves as though you were slackening off the tension on the belt?
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Got pix of bracket. Looks like In got all bolts but obviously didn't Gotta do something else now be back ltr Cliff
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Looks like I have to remove AC compressor to get at bolt. Any ideas on this? Cliff
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Looks like I have to remove AC compressor to get at bolt. Any ideas on this? Cliff
I would post in the tech talk section.

We have a few FIAT dealer level people on here who should have done this..if only in a training centre.

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I would post in the tech talk section.

We have a few FIAT dealer level people on here who should have done this..if only in a training centre.

Charlie
Thanks Charlie I have done that. Beginning to wonder if anyboby has done this & lived to tell about it Cliff
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Re: 500 alternator

Finally figured it out. Do not remove bracket. Reach waaay down & behind to take out top bolt -gotta feel , then take off bottom 2. Took off tie rod strut, axle nut, pulled axle out enough & to one side to let alternator drop. Can't get new one in. Looks like may have to remove axle. Any suggestions? Axle is firmly seated in tranny. Thanks
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Finally figured it out. Do not remove bracket. Reach waaay down & behind to take out top bolt -gotta feel , then take off bottom 2. Took off tie rod strut, axle nut, pulled axle out enough & to one side to let alternator drop. Can't get new one in. Looks like may have to remove axle. Any suggestions? Axle is firmly seated in tranny. Thanks
Well done so far...


Just a suggestion..

Can you place a trolley jack under the engines SUMP PAN.

Take weight.

Then remove/unbolt the timing side engine mount support..

Should allow a decent degree of engine / trans movement. Both up.down and fore.aft
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