Between us, Mrs. Beard and I also pay around £500 per month. In the US, even those who can afford to pay for health insurance have to let it lapse if they fall on hard times such as being laid off. If a family is paying for a mortgage, a Chevy Blazer and a speedboat, the chances are the first thing that goes is the health plan. I'm sure there is a fall back plan, but I'm pretty sure it will have reduced benefits.In response to The Beard I have to agree in some respects no child should suffer in poverty no child chooses to be in that family or life style, but also why are we paying out to people who earn good money a couple with a combined income of £80k a year can still happily claim child benefits, how does that help society
Hardly a small minority. The only reason the number of unemployed is below 3 million is down to the way successive governments have massaged the figures (by redefining, renaming etc).And in any case your idiotic idea involves destroying something that works just because a small minority exploit it.
So you have a heart attack you pay your £100 excess, diagnosis of cancer? £100 please oh and some moron punches you in the face on the way home from the pub steals your phone and breaks your nose, that will be another £100 thank you very much. Can't afford it? Should have thought about that before you got I'll.
The older you get the higher the premium, obese? Pay more! Smoker? Pay more! Drink pay more! Drive a car, work in a desk job or as a drive a bus pay more.
Here we go again. The unions butchered the country. Example? In 1981 I worked in the air freight industry and one day had a rush job. The production line had run out of bolts for door plates on Metros, and unless a consignment reached the factory by 6 am at the latest. At 5:30 I pulled in through the gates and had my papers stamped in a small brick building. Despite telling the bloke in the blue warehouse coat how important the pallet in the back of the Transit was, he just replied: (in Brummie accent) "Take a seat over there and wait 'til you're called." Time went by and I phoned the office when they came in at 9 and was told to wait. At 10 I was still waiting and our people phoned the Forwarding Agent and told them we wanted more money. At about 10:45 I was told to "Drive to the roundabout and join the queue." [Woo-hoo]. I was going to see my family againe.....sometime. As I was waiting in a 200 yard long queue of 38tonne trucks a driver walked past and asked me what I had in the back. When he heard he told me to follow him & I drove into a large receiving shed. He told a bloke what I had in the back and that the production line was at a standstill, and was told to speak to another bloke. This went on for a while until eventually another man in a blue coat said "No"
The badge on his chest said "Convener". The Metro production line should have re-started at 6 am. I went back to my space in the queue, outside a canteen, just before 11:30. The hooter went and I slipped inside for some scran. I was finally tipped at about 4 pm, well into the late shift. I don't know how much that stoppage cost BL, but it was a lot.
As to who was destroying the country, well I think it was splendid joint effort. Unions, lacklustre management and the great British public who deserted British products in droves.
I watched Marks & Spencer labels gradually change from "Made in Britain" to "Made in Israel" to "Made in China". With the exception of Tefal, almost all Sainsbury's dry goods are made either in India, Bangladesh or China. Anyone who buys a product without either looking at where it's made, or seeing and buying anyway is just as responsible. Not far from where I live was a company called Christy & Co. They made first class bed linen and towels. I once stayed in the Grosvenor House Hotel on Park Lane in London. The towels were Christy. They also supplied a number of prestige retailers such as Harrods. A few years ago the started a cheaper range made abroad because the public wouldn't pay the cost of British products. The factory and offices were bulldozed last year. And so it goes on, Prestige cookware is now made in China and Thailand. Gieves & Hawkes will measure you for your new suit, e-mail the measurements to their highly skilled tailors and within a few days it will be sent.....from Indonesia.
if management had managed then the whole situation would never have happened. i'm not sure how much is even true as no Brummie would ever say "Drive to the roundabout" unless you was at a fairground
:bang:if management had managed then the whole situation would never have happened. i'm not sure how much is even true as no Brummie would ever say "Drive to the roundabout" unless you was at a fairground
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Please tell me Dave, do you work?
Where are you getting this from? are your ideas based on anything other than the ramblings of a bigoted minicab driver?Hardly a small minority. The only reason the number of unemployed is below 3 million is down to the way successive governments have massaged the figures (by redefining, renaming etc).
why would a private company run the NHS in any other way than for profit ? i,e the same as they currently run their private health services.Also "Should have thought about that before you got I'll." You'll what?
You're assuming that a privatised NHS would run along exactly the same lines as private.
Why shouldn't people who go out & get bladdered on purpose, then do stupid things, pay an excess?
Why shouldn't the moron who punched you be made to pay for your treatment?
Why shouldn't smokers pay a slightly higher premium? Same with dangerous sports (my eldest is plays American Football and Rugby, for both sports he HAS to pay subs - which pays insurance (for medical treatment))
All I'm saying is that those who already pay into the system continue to do so - and those who contribute nothing at least contribute something.
Where is your logic? all those scroungers who don't pay tax and claim benefits should have to pay to receive healthcare from a profit driven private companyThe American system is based on voluntarily opting into a health plan, The UK system is compulsory - but only for those who pay tax. If the service is available to everyone then everyone who can make a contribution should.
Where are you getting this from? are your ideas based on anything other than the ramblings of a bigoted minicab driver?
the unions power went 20 or so years before rover died so can't see how they still get the blame
And you never answered my question "Should have thought about that before you got I'll."
You'll what ???
To say that you tell people you are an educated person, you don't seem to be able to hold an argument without slinging insults around.
And you never answered my question "Should have thought about that before you got I'll."
You'll what ???
I don't know whether or not it was the fault of a member of management, or a lazy stores clerk, but the fact remains that someone got off their arse and ordered a case of bolts to keep the line going. Someone at Bulten AB in Sweden got off their arse and got a case to the airport and someone, me, got off his arse at 3 in the morning to pick the things up and drive them to Birmingham. You may remember that the ones that didn't get off their collective arses were the union people who were quite prepared to let a shift and a half go by because of sheer bloody-mindedness.so management hadn't kept on top of stock control and ran out its managements fault
Firstly, management either couldn't, or wouldn't manage the shop floor. They may have made decisions as to which cars went into production, what trim levels they had and how much they cost. They would have selected dealers and passed numerous management type edicts but the one thing they couldn't do was manage the staff.if management had managed then the whole situation would never have happened. i'm not sure how much is even true as no Brummie would ever say "Drive to the roundabout" unless you was at a fairground
So you visited a couple hospitals with an ill relative at some point in the past and know a couple of people who work in health care, and thinks this gives you the bigger picture on how the whole NHS is run?
my partner and I both work in health care and we've worked in hospitals both local and spread across the country, in every department from surgery and theatres to obstetrics and elderly medicine, we both trained at university and our peers are also spread to every corner of this land working in health care, health tourism is not the biggest issue facing the NHS today, its an issue but its not exactly at the top of the agenda when it comes to saving money or NHS resources
are your ideas based on anything other than the ramblings of a bigoted minicab driver?