MrMogensen
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Yet another HILLHOLDER/ASR fault - but not ABS...
Hi all - my first post in this forum!
Since the Danish FIAT forum seems dead (has been moved to Facebook and I don't have/want that), I googled what seems to be an excellent forum
I know people are going to be yelling BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH, but I think the way my HILLHOLDER/ASR fault turns up is different from the rest...
Note that I do NOT have an ABS fault
ASR logo and Engine logo illuminates, infocomputer warns about Hillholder + ASR/ESP fault and the ASR button lights up (as if it is off) and can not be engaged.
The fault does NOT come up when I drive "grandma" style. If I focus on not accelerating hard I can drive city or highway without any faults.
But when I put the pedal to the metal and accelerate hard (about as hard as the car can) up through 2nd, 3rd, 4th... sometime in I get the error beeeeeep and "Hillholder + ESP/ASR" fault.
Fault is there until I turn off the engine. Next day only the "engine fault" logo illuminates + beeeep + info computer says "Check engine". I am guessing the "Check engine" come up because the other faults are still stored in memory?
Next day no faults... until I want to have a little extra fun accelerating harder and beeeeeeeeeep.
As far as I have read (from other similar posts) their ESP/Hillholder fault turns up a few seconds after they start - so more likely a brake or clutch switch.
Another (maybe important) thing I need to mention is that last week (half a day before first fault encounter) I started to notice a different sound when accelerating (not hard) - about the rev area when turbo starts to kick in. Difficult to explain a sound but my guess would be related to the intake - kind of a low suction sound. It is only there when revs start to go above 2000 and totally gone when not accelerating.
Took to car to my mechanic few days ago. He thought it was weird I had HILLHOLDER/ESP fault and NOT ABS fault. Took my car for a spin and did not notice anything wrong (except surprised how good a drive it was)
He checked intake hoses and sensors at the wheels.
The computer readout had the following 3 errors:
C1221 (related to ABS/ESP).
B1027 (related to outdoor temperaturesensor).
P0106 (related to MAP sensor).
He reset the faults and on the way home all was well - until I apparently had too much fun accelerating on some twisty roads... Beeeeeeeeeeep!
Talked with mechanic about trying to change the MAP sensor in a few days. Not too expensive and easy fix. Mechanic is unsure about what I explain as a slight increase in suction (maybe intake) noise - his guess would be that is sounds normal?
The outdoor temp error code is most likely not any issue. A few months ago the outdoor temp showed +/-10 degrees until I took of the side mirror and cleaned the plug. So this is probably a stored error?
Car was fully serviced (new tooth belt and so on) one month ago. The airfilter is a conefilter from KN (installed in KN's topcase on top of the original buttoncase). I installed it last year. Yesterday I got the thought that the KN filter might need cleaning and reoiling but look as good as new. Cleaned and reoiled it anyway - have not changed anything.
Sorry for the loooooong post. I have just tried to explain as much as possible... Any tip/advice is greatly appreciated...
Oh and by the way... last week I (for the 1st time) filled up the car with Shell's V-Power 99... instead of the usual Gasoline 95.
Mechanic said that this really shouldn't have anything to do with the faults and that the car should only accelerate slightly better.
Oh aaand battery is 6 months old Varta.
Hi all - my first post in this forum!
Since the Danish FIAT forum seems dead (has been moved to Facebook and I don't have/want that), I googled what seems to be an excellent forum
I know people are going to be yelling BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH, but I think the way my HILLHOLDER/ASR fault turns up is different from the rest...
Note that I do NOT have an ABS fault
ASR logo and Engine logo illuminates, infocomputer warns about Hillholder + ASR/ESP fault and the ASR button lights up (as if it is off) and can not be engaged.
The fault does NOT come up when I drive "grandma" style. If I focus on not accelerating hard I can drive city or highway without any faults.
But when I put the pedal to the metal and accelerate hard (about as hard as the car can) up through 2nd, 3rd, 4th... sometime in I get the error beeeeeep and "Hillholder + ESP/ASR" fault.
Fault is there until I turn off the engine. Next day only the "engine fault" logo illuminates + beeeep + info computer says "Check engine". I am guessing the "Check engine" come up because the other faults are still stored in memory?
Next day no faults... until I want to have a little extra fun accelerating harder and beeeeeeeeeep.
As far as I have read (from other similar posts) their ESP/Hillholder fault turns up a few seconds after they start - so more likely a brake or clutch switch.
Another (maybe important) thing I need to mention is that last week (half a day before first fault encounter) I started to notice a different sound when accelerating (not hard) - about the rev area when turbo starts to kick in. Difficult to explain a sound but my guess would be related to the intake - kind of a low suction sound. It is only there when revs start to go above 2000 and totally gone when not accelerating.
Took to car to my mechanic few days ago. He thought it was weird I had HILLHOLDER/ESP fault and NOT ABS fault. Took my car for a spin and did not notice anything wrong (except surprised how good a drive it was)
He checked intake hoses and sensors at the wheels.
The computer readout had the following 3 errors:
C1221 (related to ABS/ESP).
B1027 (related to outdoor temperaturesensor).
P0106 (related to MAP sensor).
He reset the faults and on the way home all was well - until I apparently had too much fun accelerating on some twisty roads... Beeeeeeeeeeep!
Talked with mechanic about trying to change the MAP sensor in a few days. Not too expensive and easy fix. Mechanic is unsure about what I explain as a slight increase in suction (maybe intake) noise - his guess would be that is sounds normal?
The outdoor temp error code is most likely not any issue. A few months ago the outdoor temp showed +/-10 degrees until I took of the side mirror and cleaned the plug. So this is probably a stored error?
Car was fully serviced (new tooth belt and so on) one month ago. The airfilter is a conefilter from KN (installed in KN's topcase on top of the original buttoncase). I installed it last year. Yesterday I got the thought that the KN filter might need cleaning and reoiling but look as good as new. Cleaned and reoiled it anyway - have not changed anything.
Sorry for the loooooong post. I have just tried to explain as much as possible... Any tip/advice is greatly appreciated...
Oh and by the way... last week I (for the 1st time) filled up the car with Shell's V-Power 99... instead of the usual Gasoline 95.
Mechanic said that this really shouldn't have anything to do with the faults and that the car should only accelerate slightly better.
Oh aaand battery is 6 months old Varta.
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