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[frupi]

Clearly, there are some companies out there that are aware of the forthcoming arrangements and have taken appropriate action. Worth reading their page:

http://www.carservicingcannock.co.uk/dpf-removal-illegal-as-of-february-2014

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Clearly, there are some companies out there that are aware of the forthcoming arrangements and have taken appropriate action. Worth reading their page:

http://www.carservicingcannock.co.uk/dpf-removal-illegal-as-of-february-2014

Another who's implied its currently legal when it isn't :bang:

 

[scout]

Another who's implied its currently legal when it isn't :bang:

That because its an A.C.E. or bottom covering exercise.

 

[bjm38]

AFAIK, diesel back up generators are not fitted with DPF's as they are not intended for use on a public road and are not mechanically self propelled. To be honest, I have no idea what environmental controls, if any, are mandated on static diesel engine generators.

It would be strange if non-automotive diesel engines, no matter what their usage, were excluded from the same strict controls. At work most of our sewer jetting machines work from the road engine via PTO, however some of the really big machines use red diesel powered donkeys. I wonder if the newer ones have to be Euro V compliant. Bear in mind these are powerful engines running at high revs 12 hours or more a day, burning their way through a lot more fuel than was needed to get them on site.

BJM

 

[ahmett]

Clearly, there are some companies out there that are aware of the forthcoming arrangements and have taken appropriate action. Worth reading their page:

http://www.carservicingcannock.co.uk/dpf-removal-illegal-as-of-february-2014

I will offer a free DPF cleaning service, just give it to me with a full tank = )

 

[306maxi]

I still don't buy the whole "thrash it to clean it" argument. Where does most diesel smoke come from? Cars being thrashed, usually by a bell end who's got it in too high a gear.

 

[IJK]

Well third time lucky on the 500 hunt. 1st one diesel sport not right for us. 2nd 1.2 lounge washed away in storm surge.
3rd Picking up the 4month old 500 s on Saturday.
Really happy AND no more dpf

 

[306maxi]

Good luck

 

[madrat]

All the best IJK

What about marine diesel's supposedly some of those the filthiest things going? What about trains? Or are they being cleaned up now?

 

[frupi]

All the best IJK

What about marine diesel's supposedly some of those the filthiest things going? What about trains? Or are they being cleaned up now?

The next train will arrive at Platform 3, errr, I got carried away there.....please see the following link, it might answer some questions.....

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=91429

 

[madrat]

I have nothing to add other than whoever invented / designed and approved DPF'S should be strung up and be left there and forgotten about...

:slayer: Totally agree with that gentleman's thoughts on the subject.

 

[IJK]

All manufactures/ dealers want to be bloody ashamed of themselves for producing this frankly ****e ill thought out design!

That's what I said almost at the start of this. Im actually a senior design engineer at the largest company in the UK in an unrelated field and I would of been strung up by my n u t s for the such a bad idea. I would expect it to.
Residual values are a concern for me too because who in the right mind will buy this ticking time bomb when these cars are 10 years old?
I just.believe there must be a better way.

 

[306maxi]

That's what I said almost at the start if this. Im actually a senior design engineer at the largest company in the UK in this field and I would of been strung up by my n u t s for the such a bad idea. I would expect it to.
Residual values are a concern for me too because who in the right mind will buy this ticking time bomb when these cars are 10 years old?
I just.believe there must be a better way.

IJK, that is what the regulations necessitate that manufacturers do, there is no choice. They have to put DPF's on cars and the drawbacks are what they are.


The problem with diesel is that there is an absolute buttload of particulates in it and unless you have a gas to liquid fuel like Shell Vpower Diesel used to be (site doesn't say it's gas to liquid anymore) then you need a DPF and there's no way around it.

Dealers should be more upfront about the issues people could potentially face.

 

[frupi]

Let's not forget though the reasons why DPF's were forced upon the industry. Please take time to read the following, it might just give a little perspective on the toxicity of diesel exhaust emissions: :dead:

http://www.jabfm.org/content/21/1/55.full

 

[306maxi]

Let's not forget though the reasons why DPF's were forced upon the industry. Please take time to read the following, it might just give a little perspective on the toxicity of diesel exhaust emissions: :dead:

http://www.jabfm.org/content/21/1/55.full

Exactly, not to be funny but if there was a better/easier way of doing it then it would have been done that way

 

[306maxi]

Let's not forget though the reasons why DPF's were forced upon the industry. Please take time to read the following, it might just give a little perspective on the toxicity of diesel exhaust emissions: :dead:

http://www.jabfm.org/content/21/1/55.full

Just read that all the way through, how anyone could with clear conscience take the DPF off their car I don't know......

 

[IJK]

I understand why and what for. Just wish they'd make them a service item (removed at service and soaked) or make the bloody things cheaper! I wouldn't be complaining if they were £100 fitted. But a grand? Takes the mick!

 

[306maxi]

But it's not a cotton filter or anything like that. You can't wash a dpf like you would a k&n panel filter.

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

:yeahthat: and if a service item you'd be removing it every <300 miles.

 

[madrat]

Just read that all the way through, how anyone could with clear conscience take the DPF off their car I don't know

If I could and get away with it I would. I have chronic asthma but I still would, If its that important all diesel engines, be them used on vehicles, boats, generators etc would have the NOW not in the future.