Technical  Wont Start - Help Please

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SiSutts

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Hi, needing some help...
My dad has purchased a Fiat Ducato (Tribute) Campervan
2005 2.3 JTD
All working then went to start and turns over but doesnt engage / start.
New battery.
Called the AA they inspected and said was a problem with immobiliser ,(immobilzer not programmed)...called out a key mechanic, they took away the black boxes to re programe but when plugged in says they are already linked.....
Any ideas please????
 
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Number 2 suspect is the ignition switch they are about £15 and there's a reason for that they are junk,
They are fiddley to fit, you only get the switch part so have to fit it to the it with the key and need to
check how many connections and what size they are before ordering.

Of course it cold be non of these but ones I have come across.
 
@SiSutts for a 2005 registration, we must be talking about an x244 model. (See VIN in registration V5C, on on VIN plate under bonnet over radiator.

Does the engine turn over with starter, but not fire? If yes then you could try the following, which worked for me.

I note that the code receiver and ECU have already been checked , but still worth a try?

Remove lower steering column cover. No.2 Pozidrive heads, easier to remove than replace because recesses are sloping. (I have a #2 Pozidrive driver with a piece of reinforced plastic fuel tubing on the shaft as a centering aid.) The upper and lower covers clip together, so some carful levering required.
With lower cover removed the code receiver is visible. Two connectors, the smaller one is 3 pole, with 2 ways used for aerial ring connection. Unplug apply electrical contact cleaner, then reconnect. For good measure treat the larger connector in the same way. Try starting before replacing covers. If still no ignition, then measure resistance of aerial via small connector. Should be about 30 Ohms. I suspect that many have been changed when only connector contacts needed cleaning, which the act of unplugging will partly do.

@RalphM has already suggested a possible ignition switch problem. I tried changing mine for a cheaper alternative from Ebay, and failed to get it to mechanically engage in the correct position. One of my few failures, as when one of the locating tabs broke, I gave up and purchased a more expensive unit which carried the original part number, and clicked into place without a problem. Attached is my own diagram, which includes part number, showing how it connects. On my diagram there is a connection across the switch where a black square or rectangle is shown. Here is a link to a suitable part on Ebay.
 
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@SiSutts for a 2005 registration, we must be talking about an x244 model. (See VIN in registration V5C, on on VIN plate under bonnet over radiator.

Does the engine turn over with starter, but not fire? If yes then you could try the following, which worked for me.

I note that the code receiver and ECU have already been checked , but still worth a try?

Remove lower steering column cover. No.2 Pozidrive heads, easier to remove than replace because recesses are sloping. (I have a #2 Pozidrive driver with a piece of reinforced plastic fuel tubing on the shaft as a centering aid.) The upper and lower covers clip together, so some carful levering required.
With lower cover removed the code receiver is visible. Two connectors, the smaller one is 3 pole, with 2 ways used for aerial ring connection. Unplug apply electrical contact cleaner, then reconnect. For good measure treat the larger connector in the same way. Try starting before replacing covers. If still no ignition, then measure resistance of aerial via small connector. Should be about 30 Ohms. I suspect that many have been changed when only connector contacts needed cleaning, which the act of unplugging will partly do.

@RalphM has already suggested a possible ignition switch problem. I tried changing mine for a cheaper alternative from Ebay, and failed to get it to mechanically engage in the correct position. One of my few failures, as when one of the locating tabs broke, I gave up and purchased a more expensive unit which carried the original part number, and clicked into place without a problem. Attached is my own diagram, which includes part number, showing how it connects. On my diagram there is a connection across the switch where a black square or rectangle is shown. Here is a link to a suitable part on Ebay.
Thanks very much for your response, i will also give this a try.
 
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Hallo, ich brauche etwas Hilfe...
Mein Vater hat sich einen Fiat Ducato (Tribute) Campervan gekauft.
2005 2.3 JTD
Alles funktionierte, dann wollte ich starten, der Motor drehte sich, aber er sprang nicht an.
Neue Batterie.
Ich rief den ADAC, der das Auto untersuchte und sagte, es gäbe ein Problem mit der Wegfahrsperre (Wegfahrsperre nicht programmiert). Ich rief einen Schlüsseldienst, der die Steuergeräte ausbaute, um sie neu zu programmieren, aber beim Anschließen hieß es, sie seien bereits verbunden.
Irgendwelche Ideen bitte????
Moin,
Läuft bei Zündung an die Kraftstoffpumpe?
Die sollte min. 3 bis 5 Sekunden kurz anlaufen
GGruß Jens
 
Hi, needing some help...
My dad has purchased a Fiat Ducato (Tribute) Campervan
2005 2.3 JTD
All working then went to start and turns over but doesnt engage / start.
New battery.
Called the AA they inspected and said was a problem with immobiliser ,(immobilzer not programmed)...called out a key mechanic, they took away the black boxes to re programe but when plugged in says they are already linked.....
Any ideas please????
Hi, is the immobiliser symbol on dash, if so I had the same issue 2012 same as yours, I got the immobiliser removed from ecu and it's fine now, but did get aftermarket immobiliser
 
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