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I plan to cut some off the rear stops. I bought two used stops from jiminwatford so I could cut those to experiment with.
My Apex shocks are 9 years old this month. Perhaps they are becoming a bit softer, especially the front right with less oil, that wheel can bounce a bit pulling away in the wet.
I had some fun tonight on the way to some friends, a lot of green lights and clear of traffic onto roundabouts allowing me to carry the speed on to them instead of having stopped each time, like normal. The car does roll quite a bit, then at a point of roll snaps into an under-steer that can't be corrected with more steering. The roll seems to take the tyres onto the edges too much, so a flatter performance would yield brisker safer cornering.
To get this, harder springs are needed I think. That how's it's been with previous cars. With my 5GTT, the OE springs may be 110 lb / inch. My first 'upgrade' was to 180 lb / inch. WAY better at turn in. But the next ones at 250 lb / inch were a LOT better again. Spax were not firm enough to control the 180's, but Koni yellows adjusted to max for rebound were fine with the 250's, but maybe a slightly softer bump setting would be better. Alas, none of that is doable with the Cinq as they sold the last of the adjustable Koni yellows and wont' make less that 25 sets, I think it was. Anyway, I don't really have the spare cash or time or enthusiasm to do all that again at this time for the Cinq. That's why I want a ready made solution.
With harder springs, the shocks then would need softer bump and firmer rebound setting. These thing need to be reasonably matched.
So what to do this with? I guess right now for the MOT I could try just one new Apex front shock and see what that does to the overall effect.
i fitted new bump stops all round. the front bump stops are cut down a little shorter than standard and the rears are about 10-15mm shorter than standard. as far as i can tell it has never hit the bump stops with this set-up.
i find the set-up very good for what it is, but i think a bit lower and stiffer would be nice.
Were they standard Cinq bump stops or those varying density foam type that are supposed to add a progressive extra support?
With my car, the gap between the top of the front shocks lower 'body', and the bump stop, is about two fingers, or maybe 30mm. So it wouldn't take much of a bump to be hitting into those.
The rears are about one finger or maybe 15mm. So constant hitting. The car will be leaning on the outer one of them all the time when cornering. Trimming them off another 15mm may make the back roll further and make the cornering worse, hence my spare pair.