General Vintage Fiat Brass ID plate & Gauge face

[Rata Road]

I picked up the following from a deceased estate here in NZ. The guy had 2 vintage fiats.
I'm not sure what years or models these are from and I cant find any data on a vintage Tipo.
Anybody help clarify what they might be off?

Thanks

 

[rmjbn1]

Hi and welcome.
I believe the tipo 101 was an engine designation:

Motore FIAT tipo 101 - Museo Motori UNIPA

Il motore FIAT 101 è stato progettato al termine del Primo conflitto mondiale per equipaggiare la FIAT 501, prodotta in grande serie dal 1919 al 1925; lo stesso è stato anche utilizzato per la FIAT 502, versione con telaio a passo lungo della 501, fino al 1926. Lo schema costruttivo è semplice e...

www.museomotori.unipa.it

Maybe most common on the car models 501 and 502 from 1919-1926:

Fiat 501 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

There might be someone more knowledgeable who can tell more from that serial number 1100957

Both my Fiats are in the "other" category!! Must say something about me???? :) 1915 Tipo 2, and 2300 powered special. | FIAT Other Fiats

Any veteran Fiat owners lurking on here?? I am always looking for Tipo 2 parts or anything veteran Fiat... Just bought my second "Fiat" a 2300 powered special that was never finished. Regards Gavin

www.fiatforum.com

 

[Rata Road]

Thanks Guys that was a good help.
Below is pics of the one Fiat still there, do you know what model & year?
What do you think the round background plate is off? Surely not a rev counter.
Thanks

 

[rmjbn1]

It looks very 501 to me, not sure of the specific model. Certainly has the type 101 engine. @rogerbeattie?

It's interesting having the bodywork shroud behind the front seats but with four doors.

About the closest I could find was this 1926 501 S Torpedo:

1926 FIAT 501 S TORPEDO in Italy - For Sale | Car & Class...

1926 FIAT 501 S TORPEDO in Italy - For Sale | Car & Classic, €60,000 Rara versione 501S Torpedo Sport, anno 1926, prodotta dagli stabilim...

www.carandclassic.com

What do you think the round background plate is off? Surely not a rev counter.

Oil pressure

Part Fiat Gauges Fiat for sale - PreWarCar

 

[rmjbn1]

So it looks like the chassis number should be stamped on the front right dumb iron?

And this 1925 501 C Torpedo has engine number 1101351:

1925 FIAT 501 C TORPEDO - Travelled less than 2,000 since restoration - Price Estimate: $26000 - $32000

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It's possible the engine number plate from your first post belongs to the car in your second post? The plate should be mounted low on the right side of the block, may have been removed?

 

[Rata Road]

Wow great information, thanks so much for your help.
If I go back there I will look to see if there is engine number plate missing on the remaining car.
And yes looks like you are exactly correct, its a oil pressure gauge back plate. Maybe I can find somebody that is needing one going forward.
What are the reports about the type 101 engines? Are they any good?
I see he has fitted an alternator.
Thanks

 

[rogerbeattie]

It is definitely a 501, the engine type is 101. The other face is probably oil pressure as they used a number of scales. Where in NZ are you/ I was over there for a Fiat event last month in Kaikoura and spent a bit of time examining other old Fiat collections in the area. Interesting body on the 501? What are your plans for it? I am arranging a big trip across Australia in 2026 to commemorate the 1926 crossing by the Fiat Club of WA in mostly 501s with a 503 and a 505F along for the trip. Here are a couplr of local (Australian 501s at a recent event I organised.

 

[rogerbeattie]

It looks very 501 to me, not sure of the specific model. Certainly has the type 101 engine. @rogerbeattie?

It's interesting having the bodywork shroud behind the front seats but with four doors.

About the closest I could find was this 1926 501 S Torpedo:

1926 FIAT 501 S TORPEDO in Italy - For Sale | Car & Class...

1926 FIAT 501 S TORPEDO in Italy - For Sale | Car & Classic, €60,000 Rara versione 501S Torpedo Sport, anno 1926, prodotta dagli stabilim...

www.carandclassic.com

Oil pressure

Part Fiat Gauges Fiat for sale - PreWarCar

It certainly is a 501 ..... or a 502, only real difference is 100mm longer wheelbase. The bodies were manufactured locally for New Zealand and Australian cars. In Australia there were about 10 different body suppliers, mostly tourers (torpedoes) but plenty of Doctors Coupes (see pic) too ....Sedans (berlinas) were mostly full imports with factory bodies.