Turbo vs N/A

[fenton_jd]

Lets say Civic Type R and Focus ST.

Both will get you there in virtually the same time, and are both (apparently) engaging to drive.

Which power delivery does it for you?

EDIT: balls this was supposed to be a poll

 

[Tym]

Turbo.

 

[Tris Harris]

Turbo, every time.

But i'm not a fan of VTEC at all, it kicks in, but its just doesnt kick in like a turbo does

+ Focus ST much better to drive than the civic, handles better and the suspension isnt so stiff your teeth chatter together constantly like the in the civic

 

[Chas Uno]

It depends on the car. Some cars like the 1980/ 90 Saab turbos were low boost and designed to give good torque throughout the rev range but without the big turbo kick. Some V-tec type engines though can give a rush when the cams kick in making the power delivery similar to driving a turbo.

Not having driving either car mentioned it's hard to say. The turbo Fiesta ST may be easier to get useable power from because of the turbo, but the Civic may be more rewarding to push hard and kick the cams in. I think the power and torque curves would need to be seen along with an assessment of the chassis dynamics to decide the ultimate winner.

However, the rush you get when a high boost turbo kicks in is only matched by a highly tuned two stroke sports bike hitting its power band. No V-tec has quite got that same feeling... yet

 

[GhostWKD]

Turbo - i found my 106 Rallye on fast road/race (inbetween the two) cams was impossible to drive responsibly because it egg'd you to keep foot planted, turbo comes on boost gives you the grin and you're done

 

[JFL]

i have a thing for turbos

 

[Yazza54]

i have a thing for turbos

i have a thing for your homemade sigs

 

[JFL]

i have a thing for your homemade sigs

ms paint and all that

 

[StevenRB45]

ms paint and all that

Your Mjet badge is squiff

As for turbos lag annoys me...but it could be because the only turbos I've driven were running on tractor fuel.

I like NA but a low pressure turbo for in gear torque would make things alot more relaxed in a small petrol car rather than razzing the f**k out of it to get to the power band.

 

[Gary]

Turbo everytime

 

[Cian]

N/A all the way. Had a Multijet panda and my work "van" (car) is a HDi - dislike the response on a turbo completely as a result of both.

 

[bulldog5046]

both have their benifits, i like the instant power delivery of N/A engines but they are expensive to tune.

Turbo lag is sometimes a little boring but at the same time exciting, waiting for that kick in the back and they are easier and less expensive to tune, however, reliability seems to be a problem.

Ry

 

[craigb244]

high reving N/A. things get good when you go over 10,000rpm

 

[punto_matt]

Turbo. I like torque.

 

[Citizen Smith]

Turbo every time - if you are able to drive properly then lag isnt an issue tbh as being in the right gear is everything.

Vtec engines have no power below around 5000 rpm so they have all the lag of a turbo without the power after it meaning they have to be thrashed constantly to get anywhere fast - S2000's go to 10000 rpm.

 

[fenton_jd]

Turbo every time - if you are able to drive properly then lag isnt an issue tbh as being in the right gear is everything.

Vtec engines have no power below around 5000 rpm so they have all the lag of a turbo without the power after it meaning they have to be thrashed constantly to get anywhere fast - S2000's go to 10000 rpm.

The noise from an S2000 though, amazing:

 

[The Beard]

Turbos now are a world away from what they were. Things certainly ain't what they used to be, thankfully. I had a Lancia Y10 Turbo which was basically an Uno 60S engine with a turbo and intercooler. At 85bhp it was about 45% more powerful than the version it was derived from.

It was dog slow until the turbo kicked in and then all hell broke loose. With a 0-60 time of about 8.5 secs., it was about as quick as a XR3i. But if you take into account the fact that by the time the turbine started its work the Escort would already be 50 yards ahead, yet the White Hen would be with it by 60 mph.

Apart from the crude arrival of boost, in many ways, once you got used to it, it was actually a very useful device.

There was quite a long time when I would have gone for a larger engine and higher revs, but now, I'd go for a turbo car; at least if we are talking of the kind of motor that mere mortals would buy.

Spent an hour today on a road between the Airport and Wilmslow and with the exception of a couple of Bentley Continentals, the stars of the afternoon were a Ferrari F430 Spider and a Maserati Convertible. The sound of the Maser and F430 as they accelerated up the road was something else.

 

[gazzaman2k]

nothing beats a neck snapping turbo

 

[BGreatholder]

Turbo all the time, after driving a civic type r half way round europe illd describe it nothing more then boring, couldn't wait to get back into my ibiza cupra...

 

[maddogmorg]

really depends upon the application, but turbo wins most of the time.

S2000 doesn't sound that good though?