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so london is north as well dave?
along with all of these
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and these are down south?
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It is quite clear that everybody has their own underlying views so some of the arguments that have arose are flawed already.



Yes that is true, but all i am saying that people are irritated by immigration in large masses.

That will always be a fact so whether my previous views are correct, the views (sometimes racist) of most of england, will remain the same. It is okay to tell me on here that my views are wrong etc. I know they are wrong after some realisation. But it is a huge number of people living in england that feel the same. Dare i say it, im sure even some black english/asian and other races are irritated by it.

EDIT: we all have a huge huge number of views that cannot possibly be expressed on here. Therefore, I will stop my ranting as the topic of argument seems to drift from one thing to another. I'm not achieving anything by typing the things I have and it certainly wont change anything.

I think you have to think about it logically.

Are all immigrants bad?
Are immigrants more or less troublesome than "home grown" people?
Do immigrants provide a cheap workforce that do jobs that the chavs simply wouldn't do?

I don't doubt that some people who were recent immigrants now resent people who are just coming to the country. But it's silly and doesn't make sense, most immigrants from outside the EU DO NOT get any benefits. I speak from experience and can tell you that for the first 4 years I was here I didn't get any benefits at all, nor did I want any or need any. I think you'll find that most immigrants are like this also, they want to support themselves and have a better life and MOST of them want to fit in.

The problem is that there's one family who doesn't work and it gets publicised and people start to generalise. Or there are some people who flat out refuse to speak English and people start to generalise and when someone sees someone who is new to the country and has limited English skills then people think they don't want to speak English.

I don't really think you're a racist, I think you just need a bit more experience and a bit of an education, the experience of being an immigrant myself and seeing how immigrants get treated just because they're not white like me is eye opening. Heck I've even been discriminated against because I'm not Welsh....... The old cvnt who was doing it probably didn't even realise.
 
Doofer said:
They're definitely English riots. The Scots, Welsh and Irish don't riot as they have lovely subsidised lives living it up on English money :D
The common Irish attitude:

"Ah sure what can ya do?" (said in a sleazy Dublin accent)

Or pointlessly riot over stupid stuff

Example
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Dublin_riots"]2006 Dublin riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Dublin_Riots_25-02-06.jpg" class="image"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Dublin_Riots_25-02-06.jpg/300px-Dublin_Riots_25-02-06.jpg"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/c/c9/Dublin_Riots_25-02-06.jpg/300px-Dublin_Riots_25-02-06.jpg[/ame]

Anyone else notice that the bad stuff happens in the northside... :rolleyes:

Seriously, people need to get over things here. But of course that won't happen because most are too thick to learn something new/ that times have moved on or are sheep listening to Biddy and Mary down the road talk gobbledygook about sensitive stuff they know nothing about but heard it on the news and put their own little twist on it, therefore making it fact. I hate the backward attitude over here :bang:
 
The common Irish attitude:

"Ah sure what can ya do?" (said in a sleazy Dublin accent)

Or pointlessly riot over stupid stuff

Example
2006 Dublin riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anyone else notice that the bad stuff happens in the northside... :rolleyes:

Seriously, people need to get over things here. But of course that won't happen because most are too thick to learn something new/ that times have moved on or are sheep listening to Biddy and Mary down the road talk gobbledygook about sensitive stuff they know nothing about but heard it on the news and put their own little twist on it, therefore making it fact. I hate the backward attitude over here :bang:
What would ye say to a cop of tea faaaaather?
FECK OFF CUP!!!!!

Gotta love the Oirish :p
 
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