Technical T-jet Sei

[BlueDan]

I love the fact that would have rolled out of the factory with 39hp

I'd also like to see it on track days/drag strips with four guys pushing down on each wing

 

[woj]

Many folks in PL are doing drags on slicks these days. Very good results, but then also a lot of risk of milling something down...

 

[ycming]

any idea how he is getting the ecu to work with the turbo ? That just looks like a P85 ecu ?

Ming

 

[woj]

any idea how he is getting the ecu to work with the turbo ? That just looks like a P85 ecu ?

Ming

Yes, quite a good one. It is indeed a stock 18F ECU piggybacked by this:

http://www.ecumaster.com/produkty.html

Just don't remember which version of it he has. Unfortunately the webpage does not yet have an English version. BTW, I have heard that these guys (ECU master) are working on a cutting edge SA system, which is supposed to overshadow most of what is out there. But no sign of any release yet.

That's the Sei from the first post. The other T-jet Sei runs on VEMS.

 

[woj]

Just found another nice t-jet project yesterday that is now finished and also very neatly done: ss manifold, no cutting of the slam panel, proper SA management based on the new EMU, and almost factory under the hood appearance:

http://www.trs-racing.pl/?link=Fiat_Seicento_1.4_T-JET

This is something I see when I think of a proper engine swap / turbo conversion

 

[Karolis]

Isn't this a big no no to having a oil drain line in that way?

 

[Honeymonster]

Looks great from the top:



But doesn't look quite as well thought out from here:



And here:



Awesome car though, not convinced about the colour.

This TRS is a tuning company isn't it so I guess it cost a lot to have it done.

 

[fingers99]

I suspect that the pipe kinks down a touch where you can't see it. But sub optimum in that respect, maybe.

Very neat and clever fabrication job, as Woj says, almost factory, but I think perhaps at the expense of a few bends you'd try to avoid.

 

[Honeymonster]

I'd say most of those issues are caused by their choice of intercooler. If they had used something with metal end caps/outlets they could modify they would have far more freedom with the pipe work.

 

[fingers99]

Yep. But then they'd have had to buy it! For all that, pretty pointless talking of the extra 5 or so bhp -- no one's ever going to have the bottle to use it all, not even on the drag strip!

 

[Honeymonster]

It's not the loss of power that would bother me, it's things like this:



And that's just some of them... all which could be avoided without that intercooler.

 

[Karolis]

The intercooler was changed at the end of the gallery.

 

[Honeymonster]

Didn't see that, what a huge improvement.

 

[fingers99]

No oil cooler? Or is the bulk around the oil filter a water/oil heat exchanger?

 

[woj]

Yes, the original t-jet heat exchanger is there.

For the return pipe, I am also suspect of this. It is an original return pipe for sure, but also originally the turbo sits much higher and the return pipe is straight then.

 

[blu73]

jeez, i think honeymonster would come beat me up if he saw the pipework on my old cinq turbo..

In my defense i didn't do it!

 

[Honeymonster]

It's important to keep your pipes clean and tidy for many different reasons.

 

[blu73]

it was a low blow that had been converted to high boost by previous owner.. but if you look at a va low blow system the turbo is pointing straight up so the pipe goes straight from turbo up and across to tb. So whoever converted put a pipe looping up and over and down to ic. And the because of that pipe from the IC to TB had a convoluted bendy way up and round back of coil packs and then a couple more right angles to the TB..

here's a pic..

*runs and hides from honeymonster*

 

[Honeymonster]

Theat doesn't look great but my main concern about the previous offering (before they fitted the improved intercooler) was pipes rubbing on things they shouldn't. Now that can get you in a lot of trouble...

I assume yours did too but it's impossible to tell from the picture. And going low to high is no excuse it's not exactly rocket science to clock a turbo.

 

[blu73]

rubbing erm, no that didn't happen.. honestly it didn't i say again, i didn't do it!! Please don't hurt me.