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Brian Strange

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Hello Fellow Bravo owners (Glad, sad or bad!)
I'd be very appreciative of any input Bravo owners could give me as I run a driving school that has been running Rovers 111s for many years so that we know them backwards but as times change we have seen fit to try a Fiat Bravo 1.2SX.

I'm impressed by the looks and easy drive and find the many adjustments to seating position very useful for a multi sized persons.

I've been alarmed by some of the experiences by others in this forum albeit other models and possibly one off rogue cars.

What I would love to know more of is the durability (don't laugh!) of Bravo cars as regards front pads, clutch, timing belt and any other items that seem to be common lack of durability faults particularly of similar models.

So if you have needed to change these then please could you list your model type and mileage when changed. (If you're thinking learners will eat up clutches and brakes etc then think again. Persons who are taught well will tend to get the maximum out of those components. It's normal for us to get 70K out of clutches and never need a gearbox change!)

As regards timing belt change, I have at last got my hands on a Haynes manual!! but although I can see the reason for the tools listed (prefabricated or otherwise) to ascertain piston mid-stroke position and camshaft relative position, I can't see why, during a cambelt change that hasn't broken, marks cannot be made on crankshaft and camshaft where necessary and then just change the belt without problems. I haven't dived in to see just what is in there but if everything is in the right place when you take the old belt off then it should still BE in the same place when you put the new belt on and a couple of self made marks before removing the old belt would confirm this.
Is anyone wise to the reasons?

Many thanks

Brian Strange
 
Durability

Brian

I've had a 1996 sx for 2 years now and after 33k had to have all the Shock absorbers replaced on it's first MOT. The guy at the MOT station said that these parts always go on the Bravos and i'm certainly not the first. I've got my suspicions on some other parts but no real evidence of a widespread problem. I don't know whether the newer models have solved this problem though.

I'll be interest to here any other replies.

Chris
 
Shocker!!

Sounds appalling. Were they leaking, knackered?
What was the cost? Was there problems getting replacements?
Thanks for interest
Brian
 
Shock absorbers

Brian

They were all leaking. I got all 4 done at Kwik-fit for £200 (which was £80 less than the Fiat dealer)I also got a 3 year warranty on them from Kwik-fit as they were heavy duty shocks, which isn't too bad.


Chris
 
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Chris
Sounds like a good deal for shockers particularly as they need to pull the front struts right out to replace the shockers. Shouldn't happen in the first place but looking through the forum I see others with a resigned attitude to Bravo shockers, like "they're going to go after a very short life". With 7K on the clock I can start saving now in time!
Brian
 
Where did you go?

Just checking, but if Kwik Fit did the MOT - then they may have been slightly economical with the truth. A couple of years ago I had my tyres looked at, and the guy at KW advised me that all the brake discs and pads needed replacing too - I subsequently found out that this wasn't necessary.

If you were certain that the shock absorbers needed replacing then I'm sorry to doubt Kwik Fit, and am only quoting from my own experience.

Peter
 
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