Hope they do crack the 100hp ecu, nobody else in the UK has so far - although people are working on it.
General Supercharged 100hp Panda
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General Supercharged 100hp Panda
edwell
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Just spoted this as I havn't been on here for a few weeks. The conversion on the 500 in the youtube vid looks pretty good. I like the fact that they aren't quoting massive power figures (I assume the engine is mechanically standard same compression ratio etc) it makes me more inclined to believe them. Also the install looks very neat, I especially like the colour coded 500, and the use of a charge cooler (unless my eyes are decieving me) instead of an intercooler is well ...cool! I want one, if only it wasn't for that pesky warranty.
The thing is though a front mounted intercooler would likely be more efficient than running a water to air intercooler and it would also be cheaper.
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you are right that it would be cheaper and easier, but an air to air intercooler probably doesn't fit or is dificult to plumb in due to lack of space.
I did a brief stint for colledge at IMI Marsden in the automotive heat exchanger department (they make lots of stuff for F1, WRC etc), an air to water heat exchanger can be a lot smaller than an air to air one for the same energy transfer, so would fit in a smaller space. Ofcourse you need a corresponding water to air exchanger to actually cool the charge though.
Also using a charge cooler keeps the length (and volume) of pipework down between the compressor and the throttle/s, which is always a good thing (supposedly less lag for one).
Also as stated in my last post and intercooler wouldn't be as cool.
Fair comment, lots of advantages in terms of pipe lengthand it being more compact.
A supercharged Panda 100 would ****ing own.
Ultimate wolf in sheeps clothing :devil:
Ultimate wolf in sheeps clothing :devil:
I reckon you'd want an LSD though as traction might be more of a problem.
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I dunno, hallucinogens might take your mind off it
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Sounds like fun to me
Had this car the other day on the rollers. It was way off the 150bhp. One of the problems is that the injectors need uprating and it uses non turbo internals.
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Given that someone 'cough' has already done this then I'm surprised the injectors weren't uprated to begin with?
If you lower the compression ratio then you can boost to 10.5 psi without risk of detonation. What supercharger does this use?
Sounds like this is another, research and development that the customer has to do....:bang: while we keep your money.
does to me too.
i've herd that it's safer to supercharge a n/a engine than to turbo charge one.
i'm tempted also though, just think of how many people in their GTi type cars would be surprised by this little panda whizzing past. pure fun
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It's only safer because the boost is more easily controlled with a scharger - no creep or spikes. The rest of it is almost exactly the same problems.
And I've done both.
I've recently used small turbo on an NA, and had results that were almost exactly the same as a rotrex scargher at exactly the same boost.
It is an unfinished project, using an Eaton 45. The problem is that the company that was meant to do the mapping messed these guys for several months. When it ended up on our rollers the requested power wasn't possible, which the graphs indicated as lack of fuel.
The package price would go up by several hundred pounds if the injectors would have to be changed, which was way over what these guys intended it to sell for.
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Tis a shame. But worrying that they didn't do the calculation relating to airflow and fuel before they costed the enterprise.. Doesn't say a lot for their planning and forward thinking
You will be able to get 160/165 at the fly and the same in torque with the correct injectors, I think you need 320 Peco? Worked fine on mine (you'd need to look it up though).
Have fun.
Tis a shame. But worrying that they didn't do the calculation relating to airflow and fuel before they costed the enterprise.. Doesn't say a lot for their planning and forward thinking
You will be able to get 160/165 at the fly and the same in torque with the correct injectors, I think you need 320 Peco? Worked fine on mine (you'd need to look it up though).
Have fun.
We told them, but every company has got its own agenda and we are living in a free world (I hope
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let me know how u get on if u fit a supercharger to 100hp, am thinking of doing it myself on a new panda next april
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