Technical Subaru eater?

Currently reading:
Technical Subaru eater?

I've had a 5.4 0-60 and 13.9 1/4 mile out of my previous sprinty 20VT. I've got a G-Tech peformance Pro (measures your 0-60, 1/4 mile etc) here so when I get chance I'll put my current coop to the test. I reckon I could coax a 13.7 out of her, with a perfect launch (a nightmare to do :( )
So many different variables, road surface, tyres, The revs used and how fast you let the clutch up, and especially temperature on the day. I find a nice cool morning when the air is more dense for the turbo is best. On bad runs I've had 7 second 0-60's and 1/4's in the 15 second area too!
 
Last edited:
Torgue italia have a coupe on there website that does 1/4 in the 11s

Also won top speed event and a couple of otherthing at ten of the best.

A scooby wrx sti type r close range box standard will do about 13

But for me the coupe is a great top end car were my friends scooby above is top end at 120. Its because its a rally car topend on the scoobys arnt great.

At the end of the day a scooby and a coupe couldnt be more diffrent, one is a rally car and the other is a sports coupe road car.
 
Check out torgue italia, they done coupes that are between 400-600 bhp and there doing it in 11s and 12s.

Not just bhp you will need, torgue is just as important too.

Also 4 high quilaty sticky [but leagal when i get some for my coupe]tyres will see your times improve.

Also little things like a lightwieght race battery, lightened flywheel light race seats make diffrence too.

Not just that, coupes are front end heavy enough, losing some wieght under the bonnit will make the cars balance/handling better.

For me uprated pads and discs and suspension is a must if your tunnig.

I like a car to be good on corners and stopping as well as going[lol].
 
Scooby are based on a rally car, when is rallying about top end ?

How does the 50 bhp coupe compares to the standard scooby on a rally track?

I find it a silly comparison ..... why not compare it to like a R1 bike or something?

Ming
 
I've got a yaris 1.4TD90 and a s2000, but my car school guy has a 20vt (he's just bought it around 3 month ago). I drive it and I'm quite impressed by it (y)i actually really like it!, best of all he only paid 2k for a mint 99model. The only thing that annoys me is the bloody turning circle. The only mod it has is a 'dunk' chip?

Its also pretty damn quick too (y), i was pulling on him at high speeds (but not by much around 1-2 car lengths) in my 257bhp odd s2000.
 
Last edited:
I drive a puma 17i and a fiat 20vt.
The race would be a bit fairer and one sided in my favour if we met ;)
Ps...it is a "dink" chip and not a dunk your biscuit chip :D
 
Last edited:
Scooby are based on a rally car, when is rallying about top end ?

How does the 50 bhp coupe compares to the standard scooby on a rally track?

I find it a silly comparison ..... why not compare it to like a R1 bike or something?

Ming


Not saying rally is about top end.:bang:

You can compare the two cars cuz a scooby is as good on road as off.(y)

What do you mean 50 bhp coupe?:confused:

We are comparing on a road/track not a rally course.

You cant drive a coupe on a rally course, its a road car[lol]:rolleyes:
 
With figures in your signature you'd be right (y)

Thanks for that 'dink'. :D

Now if someone would help me changing oil in my mothers punto :D

I drive a puma 17i and a fiat 20vt.
The race would be a bit fairer and one sided in my favour if we met ;)
Ps...it is a "dink" chip and not a dunk your biscuit chip :D
 
i think that cars ;like scoobies are out of place now as most manufacturers are making their own little cars to beat it that aside it is a very capable car and even with the awd i would still prefer the 20vt engine as pound for pound i think the 20vt is far more tunale up to 400bhp and is far more drivable the scoobies are awsome cars when tuned to 600+bhp but tbh how many people can afford that lol
 
i think that cars ;like scoobies are out of place now as most manufacturers are making their own little cars to beat it that aside it is a very capable car and even with the awd i would still prefer the 20vt engine as pound for pound i think the 20vt is far more tunale up to 400bhp and is far more drivable the scoobies are awsome cars when tuned to 600+bhp but tbh how many people can afford that lol


The 20vt engine is deffo better to tune, for a start you got 5 cylinders not 4 and 20v instead of 16v.

You are right donny, scoobys are out of place now, also gets my back up when people go on about 4wd. its great on corners but a good driver in a front wd car would hang in there and as soon as you put your foot down comming out of a corner and hit even a small straght the coupe will have the advantage.

plus my friend has a scooby sti type r and belive my he has lost the back end in corner and span a few times. even he admited that its back end swing happy and he felt safer and thought the handling was better in his rear wd mazda rx 7 that was tuned to over 400bhp.

Mazda 323 4wd gtr[2 liter 16 turbo 210 bhp] also have dodge back end that my other friend can only describe as lethal. He has write 2 off due to losing theback end in a situation were he wasnt even racing. He said it just went without warning, he was luckey to escape with his life as this was comming off a island on to a duel carridgway and ended up upsise down falling down a steep 10 foot ditch. i think it was the bramble and bush that softened the landing.

Dont think that you can buy a 4wd car and stick to the road like superglue cuz it dont work like that and they can catch you out.
 
I had a scooby before the fiat,skyline and mr2t and have to say that they do handle well but because of that,you get no sense of speed or going fast if you know what I mean.
In a coupe,it just feels faster although that may not be the case.
Also,on a nice long straight road,fiat wins hands down but how many of those do you drive or race along ?
The coupe handling is pants if we are honest,no matter what extras you fit when compared to a 4WD.
Just my 3p worth.
 
Last edited:
TBh I dont think fwd and 4wd are as far apart as people say.

Dont get me wrong im not saying a coupe will out handle or even handle nearly as good as a scooby because it wouldnt.

What i am saying is you can get caught out still, with more power going to the back than the front on most 4wd

On the moterway, duel caridgeway or anywere other than residenshal areas/estates were there are straights and long corners the coupe will be faster.

On todays roads anyway, the scooby would be faster through small housing estates were there are lots of tight bends the scooby would have advantage but who in there right mind would race there? I no I wouldnt because its very dangerous.

IMO the only place on or off a track the scooby would beat a coupe would be on a rally course. And we all no that you cant drive a coupe on a rally course becasue it is a ROAD SPORTS COUPE not a rally car.

Like pinn_ said even a sti would struggle over a 100mph.

Also fupetep I have to disagree because even tho I do think the scooby is a class act and better than the coupe when it comes to handling, I do think that the fiat coupe is one of the better fwd cars for handling?
 
I have driven/owned them all and I am only speaking from my experience with them.
Anyone can drive a scooby or evo to it's limit,even a bad driver but you can't say that about a coupe.
And there be the conundrum:)
 
I have driven/owned them all and I am only speaking from my experience with them.
Anyone can drive a scooby or evo to it's limit,even a bad driver but you can't say that about a coupe.
And there be the conundrum:)

a well modified coupe handles very nicely indeed if suspension components are newish. Ive never had a car that handles so bad once components are wearing.

Add to this some camber adjustment better dampers and upper/lower braces
and it really does handle well but.

it still needs more thought to take corners fast though and if you get it wrong feather the brakes and send weight to the front it will spin.
 
a well modified coupe handles very nicely indeed if suspension components are newish. Ive never had a car that handles so bad once components are wearing.

Add to this some camber adjustment better dampers and upper/lower braces
and it really does handle well but.

it still needs more thought to take corners fast though and if you get it wrong feather the brakes and send weight to the front it will spin.

My old 16vt had springs, shocks, front strut brace, sticky tyres uprated pads and discs and it was great.

My new 20vt is standard apart from a chip and I can tell the diffrence, still wouldnt say it was bad tho. Give me a year tho and ill have all the above plus loads more power.

I cant help myself i just love making a great standard car so much better part by part. I sometimes think of moving on as coupes are aging but I cant think of a what next. I think the 2.0 20v 5 cylinder turbo is a great engine to tune having a extra cylinder and 4 fours is great for the low down torgue and most rivel cars of my mates like a few scoobys, a civic type r, mazda 323 turbo to name some all have 16v and four clyinders IMO you got a better base for sound and power also.

Plus i like a bit of top end and the coupe beats most rivels hands down at a impressive 155 mph on a standard 20vt.
 
Not much that can better the standard coupes 155mph and when you start tuning.........it goes up and up :cool:
I am pretty sure I could get close on 170mph if I had the bottle.....lol
 
The 20vt engine is deffo better to tune, for a start you got 5 cylinders not 4 and 20v instead of 16v.

A coupe with a 16v Turbo engine, can be tuned to much much much more power than a coupe 20v Turbo could ever dream of. I'd still take the 20v though.

As for handling, i suspect being Japanese a Subaru will have much more sophisticated suspension set up. The coupe uses a cheap set up, it's effective and is excellent for a FWD car, but there are better systems out there, my brothers MX3 still a FWD car, easily outclassed my tipo, which is lighter than a coupe, Though it was a lot quicker than the MX3:devil:
 
i cant wait to see how my 20vt bravo holds up against the japs on the track with the new coilovers im thinking with the right tyres its going to be an excellent drive. hope so anyways lol
 
Don't forget your brakes bud.
Good brakes and you can take it to the limit.
My recommendation would be....stick with Brembos and go drilled and grooved front and back and yellow stuff pads all around (y)
 
Back
Top