Strike!
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no!!!!!!!!!!!!!! alfa cant afford this at all.
Haven't seen many 500s here at all and zero Bravos.
there's a good thread on alfaowner with weekly updates. its not good, year on year shows big drops in most countries.18.8% drop in FIAT sales in the home market isnt good either, does anyone know how their exports are going with the new models now launched?
raton_laveur
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First of all, the strike is a bad deal for Fiat Group.
Second, don't jump to conclusions based on a single statistic. For one thing, we don't know the timeframe involved. Are they comparing to the previous month? The same month or quarter of the previous year? Year to date compared to last year?
Fiat has had three hits and three flops recently and they are all runing at the same time. The Panda, Grande Punto and the 500 are the hits. the Idea, Croma and the Bravo are the flops and the Stilo was also a recent flop. Actually, it's a current flop as well since the Stilo Break is still on offer.
The Alfa 147 and 166 have been around too long. The 159 is not exactly best in class and is overpriced. The two seaters seem to be doing well.
The Lancia range is basically dead and should probably be done away with.
Given the above, it would not be surprising if sales were down by 18% in Italy as the flops outweigh the hits. On the European level, Fiat is in sixth place in the sales race. Again, don't read too much into a single statistic that covers a single area.
Second, don't jump to conclusions based on a single statistic. For one thing, we don't know the timeframe involved. Are they comparing to the previous month? The same month or quarter of the previous year? Year to date compared to last year?
Fiat has had three hits and three flops recently and they are all runing at the same time. The Panda, Grande Punto and the 500 are the hits. the Idea, Croma and the Bravo are the flops and the Stilo was also a recent flop. Actually, it's a current flop as well since the Stilo Break is still on offer.
The Alfa 147 and 166 have been around too long. The 159 is not exactly best in class and is overpriced. The two seaters seem to be doing well.
The Lancia range is basically dead and should probably be done away with.
Given the above, it would not be surprising if sales were down by 18% in Italy as the flops outweigh the hits. On the European level, Fiat is in sixth place in the sales race. Again, don't read too much into a single statistic that covers a single area.
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The Italian car market is in free-fall right now and its not just Fiat who are seeing a dramatic downturn in sales in their home market. It doesnt look like they are loosing sales to competitors, it looks like the Italians are leaving their money in the banks until consumer confidence returns.
http://www.eurograduate.com/article.asp?id=1268&pid=2
http://www.eurograduate.com/article.asp?id=1268&pid=2
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you make that sound like a good thing?
the figures show that 6th isnt good at all-
http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/atta...o-sales-statistics-we-car-sales-march2008.txt
your link shows they are actually losing market share-
"Italy's new car sales fell for a third straight month in March, down 18.76 percent. Sales of Fiat SpA's three brands suffered an even harder fall of 20.6 percent."
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That kinda makes sense Sledge and what raton lavour says above is interesting. It reminds of BL / Austin Morris whatever we want to remember it as. More flops than successes. I didnt think the current Bravo was a flop though... maybe a victim of its launch date coinciding with fuel / global warming / credit stuff, but that would affect all but the low tax band fuel sipping cheapies!
Maybe its the Burlesconi return.... hands on your wallets Italy!
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UPDATED.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/companyNews/idUKL1615935420080416?symbol=FIA.MI
This is similar to what the BL workers were doing in the 70s
http://uk.reuters.com/article/companyNews/idUKL1615935420080416?symbol=FIA.MI
This is similar to what the BL workers were doing in the 70s
they should move production to poland to punish the swines. it would cut costs and improve quality.
raton_laveur
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WTF???300 out of 5000 workers are shutting down the plant because they don't want to move to another part of it???:bang: What kind of crap is that??? I might be able to understand if there were some jobs at stake, but that's crazy:yuck:
BTW, I have heard that there is still one brand new Princess for sale at a garage in a very remote part of the Scottish highlands. Still there after all these years...
And the new Bravo really is not doing well in Belgium, France and Germany, places that I regularly travel through. I still rarely see them. Fiat needs to get some more versions out, such as the break, MPV and the coupe-convertable. As I don't expect an Alfa 149 break anytime in the next decade or so, the Bravo break may be a good solution as both share the same platform
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raton_laveur
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Ah, yes. Political instability returns with Berlusconi trying to get the top job again and everyone is holding on to their wallets for the moment. Why can't they find someone better to run the place? It always seems to be the same few, like in France...
