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Hi all! Was just looking thru my spare parts today and noticed I have 3 extra guage panels that all have 80 mph limit speedometers , my spider has a 140 mph speedometer, a 1979 model with auto trans, wondering what might have determined, (,in the u.s.) anyway, what cars got what speedometer? Was it an option package ? Or just what country it went to?
Thanks! And take care!
Terry
 
Only book I have covering the 124 Spider says that the 1979 model with fuel injection had larger power bulges on the hood (to make room for the FI equipment) and had a speedo that only read to 85 mph. It states that there is a pin in the speedo preventing the needle from exceeding this speed (causing many owners to believe their car could only do 85 mph) - if this pin is removed, the speedo needle can get around to the 'main beam' warning light position, which is a lot faster than 85 mph!

I seem to recall that the idea behind fitting an 85 mph speedo was to save fuel by discouraging drivers from trying to go any faster, wasn't there a national 55 mph speed introduced around this time in the U.S.?
Afaik, only U.S. model 124 Spiders ever had this 85 mph speedo.

Have you checked out the 124 Spider info section at the top of the Autoricambi w/site, lots of info there about model changes over the years, trim colors etc. but I didn't find any mention of when or where the 85 mph speedo was fitted.
 
Only book I have covering the 124 Spider says that the 1979 model with fuel injection had larger power bulges on the hood (to make room for the FI equipment) and had a speedo that only read to 85 mph. It states that there is a pin in the speedo preventing the needle from exceeding this speed (causing many owners to believe their car could only do 85 mph) - if this pin is removed, the speedo needle can get around to the 'main beam' warning light position, which is a lot faster than 85 mph!

I seem to recall that the idea behind fitting an 85 mph speedo was to save fuel by discouraging drivers from trying to go any faster, wasn't there a national 55 mph speed introduced around this time in the U.S.?
Afaik, only U.S. model 124 Spiders ever had this 85 mph speedo.

Have you checked out the 124 Spider info section at the top of the Autoricambi w/site, lots of info there about model changes over the years, trim colors etc. but I didn't find any mention of when or where the 85 mph speedo was fitted.
Doesn't sound like a good selling point for new owners buying a sports car.;)
 
This is the speedo in my 79 non fuel injected spider...not sure if it was part of the auto transmission package, or relative to this country, but I'm curious...in my dreams I wonder if it could be abarth related? (Kidding), Haha, not a chance I bet 😀
 

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So it seems a.i. possibly answered my question, my speedo is likely a European possibly older gray market , vegila Borletti model, someone must have installed prior to my ownership...so its not original to my spider...and unfortunately I'm guessing at this point, neither would be the mileage.....😒
 

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So it seems a.i. possibly answered my question, my speedo is likely a European possibly older gray market , vegila Borletti model, someone must have installed prior to my ownership...so its not original to my spider...and unfortunately I'm guessing at this point, neither would be the mileage.....😒
Re the mileage , we would never trust mileage on old cars as once they got to 100k they would reset to zero, hence the dodgy car salesmen's trick of an electric drill to wind them on, some would even dismantle the speedo to set the mileage where they wanted it. Remember no one recorded Mot mileage data much in those days. Also even if the car did less than the average 10k per year, at the age they are now they could easily have gone around the clock many times.:(
 
Re the mileage , we would never trust mileage on old cars as once they got to 100k they would reset to zero, hence the dodgy car salesmen's trick of an electric drill to wind them on, some would even dismantle the speedo to set the mileage where they wanted it. Remember no one recorded Mot mileage data much in those days. Also even if the car did less than the average 10k per year, at the age they are now they could easily have gone around the clock many times.:(
I bought a 1971 London Taxi many years ago with around 80k miles recorded, many have actually done 200/300 and some nearly 600k miles.
It ran well apart from a diesel fuel blockage causing multiple breakdowns , this was in early 80s when I was less familiar with diesel issues.
It was great fun to drive with an incredible turning lock allowing you to turn around in most roads in one go.:)
 
And now @Slotman and @smahaley have me puzzled :unsure: about what caused such severe corrosion etc. inside the rubber boot covering the comp. valve?

Given that the boot seems to fit securely over the torsion rod and is clamped around the c/v body, plus is fairly well protected where its located, the only potential reason I've come up with is that perhaps the grease used to originally lube the torsion bar end where it contacts the c/v piston, has over decades, broken down/deteriorated and attacked the aluminum body??

I bought a 1971 London Taxi many years ago with around 80k miles recorded, many have actually done 200/300 and some nearly 600k miles.
It ran well apart from a diesel fuel blockage causing multiple breakdowns , this was in early 80s when I was less familiar with diesel issues.
It was great fun to drive with an incredible turning lock allowing you to turn around in most roads in one go.:)
I need to learn more about working on diesels, I have a military chevy truck that I think will almost last forever like your taxi.
It's a year 1984 with low 4.56 gearing front and rear, with rear axle full locked all the time....only has 45k miles on it (and I know the mileage is correct on it) , only use it for hauling, and the dump, with the gearing it's not really freeway capable, but don't think I will ever wear it out...
 
I need to learn more about working on diesels, I have a military chevy truck that I think will almost last forever like your taxi.
It's a year 1984 with low 4.56 gearing front and rear, with rear axle full locked all the time....only has 45k miles on it (and I know the mileage is correct on it) , only use it for hauling, and the dump, with the gearing it's not really freeway capable, but don't think I will ever wear it out...
Sounds like a fun vehicle, at least with it being diesel you have slightly better economy with the low gearing, though if diffs are locked tyre wear on the road maybe high.:)
I was tempted by a Bedford RL in the past and always liked the Mercedes Unimog and the Iveco Daily 4x4 as I have had several rear wheel drive Daily's.
 

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