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Some of the most stupid driving you have seen?

At no point did I say anything about you saying he was a fighter pilot?! I said no way is he at the standard of a fighter pilot of which you implied.

No I may not be but I am pretty smart and understand a fair bit about spatial awareness so I can comment on this just as much as yourself. Taking any spatial awareness tests doesn't make you an expert in spatial awareness just like me taking my maths tests doesn't make me an expert in maths. The fact I am neither an Air Traffic Controller or Fighter Pilot is neither here nor there if I understand movement.

IMO, 8/10 drivers on the road if they didn't care about losing their life should be able to do that and get lucky, the other 2 would kill themselves.

Not sure why it makes me ignorant to say that?
 
I totally disagree Paul no way could 80% of drivers do anything near that....

I prob know of about 10 People who could do that and I spend a lot of time around people who live for the track.....

So 10 people out of how many that i know that drive...... not sure of that percentage ;)
 
So what's so special about it? I fail to see...give me some specifics? All he is doing is dodging cars, it looks impressive because it's stupid and nobody in their right mind would ever consider it but I still don't think there's any special driving. Driving a car like that is kinda "point and click" - practically the same gear, no care in the world, aim car in gap and go. The relative speed he has over people is such that it's like weaving in and out of gaps at 20mph just the risks are 100x higher.
 
I just wonder whether he killed himself the next time he did it and came around the back of a bus to find a car in the inside lane doing 40mph.....
 
Just like the majority of people thing water is blue, then realise it's not blue then realise that infact, it is actually blue.

Or the people that think water conducts electricity, oh but no, it doesn't, it's the stuff dissolved into water that conducts electricity, again, wrong, water does conduct electricity on its own.

I.e. one day you will learn ;)

If i saw the guy do it for 4 hours and constantly getting it right i would agree with you but anybody could drive like it's a computer game without a care in the world and get it right for a minute or two.....

Skill or no skill, it's the worst driving I have ever seen in my life.
 
I thought it was great, but would have been much more fun with bald tyres on ice at higher speed with smaller gaps at night with no lights, controlling the steering wheel with his knees, whilst smoking a bong, blindfolded.
 
So what's so special about it? I fail to see...give me some specifics? All he is doing is dodging cars, it looks impressive because it's stupid and nobody in their right mind would ever consider it but I still don't think there's any special driving. Driving a car like that is kinda "point and click" - practically the same gear, no care in the world, aim car in gap and go. The relative speed he has over people is such that it's like weaving in and out of gaps at 20mph just the risks are 100x higher.
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Again I'm with you Paul. There's nothing special about it, if you're going faster than everyone else and prepared to endanger your live and everyone else's it isn't going to be difficult. Between each gap between cars of sensible drivers is a gap plenty big enough for a complete tosser to drive through.
 
The Negotiator said:
At no point did I say anything about you saying he was a fighter pilot?! I said no way is he at the standard of a fighter pilot of which you implied.

No I may not be but I am pretty smart and understand a fair bit about spatial awareness so I can comment on this just as much as yourself. Taking any spatial awareness tests doesn't make you an expert in spatial awareness just like me taking my maths tests doesn't make me an expert in maths. The fact I am neither an Air Traffic Controller or Fighter Pilot is neither here nor there if I understand movement.

IMO, 8/10 drivers on the road if they didn't care about losing their life should be able to do that and get lucky, the other 2 would kill themselves.

Not sure why it makes me ignorant to say that?
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Once again you're blinded by high self opinion, importance and ignorance and consequently go off on tangents that are as you put it "is neither here nor there" which is really a get out statement meaning, I don't really understand but I hope I can wash over it. You may understand spatial awareness, but understanding and being able to do are completely different, it can't be taught, you can only build upon a skill that is inherent in that person. Where did anyone state that your inteligence was called into question so that you had to defend it? You may be smart, but that has nothing to do with how someone deals with spatial reckoning, as i said less than 4% of society do have a high enough standard to become a fighter pilot or air traffic controller. In the year 2000 just over 4800 people applied to become a student air traffic controller, do you know how many were succesfull, 112, and some of those I know came from backgrounds as diverse as bar work, gardening, police, ex RAF, or staright from uni with a variety of degrees such as Aeronautical Engineering, Pharmacy, Physics, Bio Chemistry & Maths.

I can recognise that the way the guy threaded his car through at speed needs a high level of spatial awareness but as I also said he is in a minority who would choose to drive in such a way, as it is both reckless and dangerous as you always have an unknown quantity when driving on public roads, and that is you can never estimate all possible variations of what the other drivers will do, unlike a race track where the level of driver skill & awareness is at a much higher level and therefore you can be reasonable reassured the actions of others can be expected to follow your own actions.

So lets just leave it at that, the guys got skill, but it has been exercised in the wrong place, it really is that simple. ;)

Aaron.
 
JEEEVO said:
In the year 2000 just over 4800 people applied to become a student air traffic controller, do you know how many were succesfull, 112
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?? This doesn't mean only 4% of these people were good enough it just means they were only looking for 112 people!!!!!
 
Dr_Pepper said:
?? This doesn't mean only 4% of these people were good enough it just means they were only looking for 112 people!!!!!
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Wrong, there is a world wide shortage of air traffic controllers which at present estimates is 20-25% under staffed and could get worse as there are a lot of retirements coming up, but there just are not enough people who fill the criteria and pass the interviews and tests.

For anyone interested go to www.nats.co.uk and have a look, for the record an ATCO 1 at Swanick Area centre (near Southampton) can expect to earn up to £80,000 a year, plus you get nearly half the year off in leave and very handsome discounts on air travel, or at an airport you can expect to earn up to £70k at a London unit or £60k at any big city airport or £45k at a regional. But you do start as a student on about £22,000.

Aaron.
 
You don't have to be a genius to be an air traffic controller, plus air traffic controller is not one job there are hundreds.

I have a friend who works for NATS, he will happily tell you he is an air traffic controller (he works in the tower at Stansted) and although he is not one of the top air traffic controllers obviously, that is his job title but he is basically a computer basher. He is not special, ok there are test to pass but he is a normal person. I would also say that while as you say the pay is good, the hours are crap!

My point is anyway that only a tiny fraction of the people NATS employs are the ones who talk to the pilots etc like you see in the movies...
 
U'oh the young trying to teadh the old!!

I won't enter my opinion on the the argument emerging but will sid ewith Jamie saying it was cool purely for the entertainment value and since apparently from the video now one was hurt why should it be worth 3 pages of thread?

Liam
 
If it's not worth three pages you don't have to post ;) :) ;)

It's only 1 page on mine anyway...?
 

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Dr_Pepper said:
You don't have to be a genius to be an air traffic controller, plus air traffic controller is not one job there are hundreds.

I have a friend who works for NATS, he will happily tell you he is an air traffic controller (he works in the tower at Stansted) and although he is not one of the top air traffic controllers obviously, that is his job title but he is basically a computer basher. He is not special, ok there are test to pass but he is a normal person. I would also say that while as you say the pay is good, the hours are crap!

My point is anyway that only a tiny fraction of the people NATS employs are the ones who talk to the pilots etc like you see in the movies...
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I just left NATS as an Aera Controller to go to SERCO as a lower paid tower controller, cos I want to look out the window :D
 
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