General should i remove my induction kit

[petethepirate]

im looking my car to perform better i do have an induction kit installed atm and its in teh correct position in behind the batter not over teh top of the rocker cover getting warm its the normal ford focus induction kit should i keep it or remove it

 

[fingers99]

Behind the battery? I'm confused. The imortant thing is to have the inlet in cold air. Pics, please.

 

[adams92]

that is a bad place to put it mate, fit it facing the front on the opposute side to the battery, with a cold air feed pipe coming from the vent in the bottom of the front bumperand run it up to the filter

your not going to get much of a performance increase, maby very slight, with a bit more throttle responce and a sporty sound

 

[dave]

thats cool where it it, cooler than behind a hot rad at the front. to get it cooler remove bits of rubber seal at top of bulk head to let heat out

 

[adams92]

thats cool where it it, cooler than behind a hot rad at the front. to get it cooler remove bits of rubber seal at top of bulk head to let heat out

thats not ture lol, there is less acess to air behind the battery tray, the air comminf through the air feel creates a 'ram air' effect forcing the air down the pipe and in to the engine, if you want the air to be cooler then put a heat shild round it, looking at the length of the pipe it should sit just out of the way of the rad, also the main thing its a small engined car an induction kit isnt going to give you much more performance

 

[dave]

thats not ture lol, there is less acess to air behind the battery tray, the air comminf through the air feel creates a 'ram air' effect forcing the air down the pipe and in to the engine, if you want the air to be cooler then put a heat shild round it, looking at the length of the pipe it should sit just out of the way of the rad, also the main thing its a small engined car an induction kit isnt going to give you much more performance

lol air wont travel through an air feed tried and tested in controlled conditions many times. if you fixed a temperature probe to behind the battery and to front of bonnet you will get a lower reading from behind battery

 

[130bhp blowing]

get a gsr induction kit fitted...job done..

had peter come and fit mine on my hgt when i had it....well worth it..

 

[adams92]

lol air wont travel through an air feed tried and tested in controlled conditions many times. if you fixed a temperature probe to behind the battery and to front of bonnet you will get a lower reading from behind battery

i beg to differ, air travels where ever its directed a desk fan proves that you dont need a lab, but never the less how come on all your pictures your induction kits are fitted where i said to put it?

and you didnt mention the whole no performance bit

 

[dave]

i beg to differ, air travels where ever its directed a desk fan proves that you dont need a lab, but never the less how come on all your pictures your induction kits are fitted where i said to put it?

and you didnt mention the whole no performance bit

i dont have an 8v

you can beg all you like, even with a big air scoop you wont get colder air shooting up a cold air feed

no performance? up to a 10% power increase with the right induction isn't no performance

 

[adams92]

im not talking about colder air lol you will get a larger volume of air available to the engine, and mate you have to get a remap or adjust fueling to get a 10% power increase the claims are bull****. on yours will loose you top end power cos the air has to travel a MILE to enter the engine, you ever herd of vairable inlet tract manifolds? they decrease the inlet tract size at high rpm so the engine can have quicker acess to air when the engines sucking in a massive volume

and so what if you dont have an 8v its still in the same place cos u want ait to hit the front of the car get rammed up the pipe and go in to the manifold, your metal section runs over the top of the exhaust manifold lol you aught to heat wrap that if your so concious of tempratures

 

[dave]

lol you need induction lengh, what one of my kits you on about the cda or gsr? the gsr is fully proven both on rr and 1/4 mile tests and before and after remap, the 10% comes from just the kit. but they are very expencive and often dont arrive for months after you order them if at all.

the bmc was crap no matter where i fitted it, but the air inside the metal pipe did not get hotter from manifold it was too thick. the bmc cda fills with dirt to quick to be of any use.

cold air feed tests were done on big engine drift cars with big scoops, still no gains, the car pushes air away from its self and scoop as you drive so hardly any air gets in, what does get in heats up before hitting filter

 

[adams92]

right i see so they invented variable tract manifolds for no reason, you need different lengths at different rpm and fiat will have had desiged the standard ait track to get the best over as much of the rev range as possible because they dont use VTM's so you putting a mile long pipe on it wont really help,

this is just stupid now its a bloody 80bhp engine if you want performance but a 20vturbo or something

 

[dave]

have you ever worked on any induction testing at all? its not all about more power its about best use of the power, fiat and many others havent got this right with the standard induction

 

[adams92]

lol i work on bm's mate the technology on your fiat was on bm's in the early 90's its petty simple stuff the fiats are cheap little cars

i know what your saying and we both have points however at the end of the day its such a small engine and 'using the best of the power' is pointless buy a car with more power insted of trying to get 8bhp more from a 1.2

 

[dave]

so your answer is no then.

where is the fun in just buying a bigger engined car?

 

[adams92]

why would i want to do induction kit testing on a 1.2l engine?!

why because there slow as F@:K!! go buy a golf gti mate you want tuning fun get a revo map bigger turbo fancy induction kit exhaust ect n you can double the bhp in those engines

 

[dave]

now you are just being silly, go join a golf forum if you want to talk about them

 

[adams92]

i have just noticed you have an CVT automatic lol learn to drive then come back to me im bored of this pathetic comversation a good way to get power from a small engine is a manual gear box lol

 

[dave]

that is just one of the vehicles on my drive, there is also a 2.8 turbo with a manual box.

if you dont want to help out with the cars we are actually dealing with in this section then leave

 

[SamuraiDragon]

why does the drama llama always show its face when people talk about induction kits. lol.
lets be fair here.... most people only fit them for the noise, especially on smaller engines. simple as that.