Hi, folks My wife has recently bought a 1.6 Sedici 4x4 which she is very happy with. The car is coming up to its 36000 mile service and I plan to do this myself. I have a few questions: 1. The schedule in the owner's manual states that the fuel filter is due at 36000 for diesel models only. I cannot see any requirement to ever change the fuel filter on petrol cars. Is this a mistake? Assuming that there is a filter, I'd rather change it so that I know it's been done. 2. The owner's manual implies that there is a service interval counter in the engine which will illuminate a light when it thinks the car is due. I want to reset this and have successfully connected to the car using an ELM327 lead and EasyOBD. There are no error codes and I cannot see anything to reset manually. Do I need different software to do this or does interrogating the car reset the service counter? 3. I have a fondness for foam panel air filters. Has anyone fitted one to a petrol Sedici and if so, did you notice any changes in performance or noise? 4. Any extra service procedures that others would recommend? 5. Any tips or problems with access? Thanks in advance.
Technical Sedici 1.6 petrol 36000 mile service
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Hi Ourmark,
Lots of different opinions on fuel filter changes.... some manufacturers say no need as they are more of a valve regulator than a filter!
Others say frequently as they may become blocked with contaminated fuel or particles from your tank. If this happens they can put extra strain on your fuel pump and at worst send the particles to the injectors if fitted and block them.
Have an old R reg punto 1.2 petrol (65000 miles) that was desperate for a fuel filter change... engine ran a lot smoother once done.
(Be aware of warranty issues if servicing by yourself.)
Not sure about the service indicator on the petrol version Sedici.
Try checking http://www.fiatecuscan.net/
Think you have to purchase to have the reseting option. (used to be a warning about older cheap chinese elm's not being compatible.)
We used to swap standard air filters in our cars with a K&N panel filter to clean and re-use but don't anymore after reading the oil from the filter could possibly contaminate the Mass Airflow Sensor.... although we did check the sensor and was as dry as a bone.... so probably a bit of an old wives tale.
The foam air filter may be a good alternative or if you're after more power swap for the turbo diesel, Sedici + do a DPF removal + re-map .
Hope this helped.
Lots of different opinions on fuel filter changes.... some manufacturers say no need as they are more of a valve regulator than a filter!
Others say frequently as they may become blocked with contaminated fuel or particles from your tank. If this happens they can put extra strain on your fuel pump and at worst send the particles to the injectors if fitted and block them.
Have an old R reg punto 1.2 petrol (65000 miles) that was desperate for a fuel filter change... engine ran a lot smoother once done.
(Be aware of warranty issues if servicing by yourself.)
Not sure about the service indicator on the petrol version Sedici.
Try checking http://www.fiatecuscan.net/
Think you have to purchase to have the reseting option. (used to be a warning about older cheap chinese elm's not being compatible.)
We used to swap standard air filters in our cars with a K&N panel filter to clean and re-use but don't anymore after reading the oil from the filter could possibly contaminate the Mass Airflow Sensor.... although we did check the sensor and was as dry as a bone.... so probably a bit of an old wives tale.
The foam air filter may be a good alternative or if you're after more power swap for the turbo diesel, Sedici + do a DPF removal + re-map .
Hope this helped.
Thanks for the response.
I have done more reading and it seems that the fuel filter on this car is mounted inside the fuel tank and is not a service item. So that's one less job to do.
Thanks for the link to the software. That's exactly what I need.
As for the foam panel air filter, I went off that idea when I saw that ITG panel filter costs £76.80. Ouch! The K&N is much more reasonable at £35 so I am tempted to fit one of those. I think that the sensor contamination stories are probably bogus so am not worried about that.
I have done more reading and it seems that the fuel filter on this car is mounted inside the fuel tank and is not a service item. So that's one less job to do.
Thanks for the link to the software. That's exactly what I need.
As for the foam panel air filter, I went off that idea when I saw that ITG panel filter costs £76.80. Ouch! The K&N is much more reasonable at £35 so I am tempted to fit one of those. I think that the sensor contamination stories are probably bogus so am not worried about that.
See other posts for info on the petrol Sedici 4x4; it is easy to service but note:
Plugs are very long lasting iridium so may never have been removed so worth checking that you CAN get them out and probably worth replacing at 36000 anyway; use grease on threads.
Considering the specs of the engine mine has always seemed a little underpowered and I suspect this engine is detuned; convoluted exhaust and air intake probably do not help; I intend to blank off the EGR valve sometime to see if this improves economy and performance.
Generally I get about 39mpg, though the diesel gives about 49mpg according to reports but cambelt changes/DPF issues on the latter probably make it more expensive to run overall........
its a nice comfortable car and I love it......
Plugs are very long lasting iridium so may never have been removed so worth checking that you CAN get them out and probably worth replacing at 36000 anyway; use grease on threads.
Considering the specs of the engine mine has always seemed a little underpowered and I suspect this engine is detuned; convoluted exhaust and air intake probably do not help; I intend to blank off the EGR valve sometime to see if this improves economy and performance.
Generally I get about 39mpg, though the diesel gives about 49mpg according to reports but cambelt changes/DPF issues on the latter probably make it more expensive to run overall........
its a nice comfortable car and I love it......
Thanks for the help, guys.
As these spark plugs are so expensive, I decided to just refit them with a touch of copper grease. I also put copper grease on all the earth connections in the engine bay.
The oil and air filter changes were both easy enough.
Now for the problems...
The offside rear brake bleed nipple snapped as I tried to loosen it. I've ordered a bolt remover and a set of stainless steel bleed nipples so this will be a job to come back to.
FiatECUscan doesn't have an Engine module listed for the Sedici 1.6 petrol so I can't reset the service interval.
I'll have to wait and see if the service light comes on. The car has done 9500 since its last service so I'm surprised I haven't seen it already.
As these spark plugs are so expensive, I decided to just refit them with a touch of copper grease. I also put copper grease on all the earth connections in the engine bay.
The oil and air filter changes were both easy enough.
Now for the problems...
The offside rear brake bleed nipple snapped as I tried to loosen it. I've ordered a bolt remover and a set of stainless steel bleed nipples so this will be a job to come back to.
FiatECUscan doesn't have an Engine module listed for the Sedici 1.6 petrol so I can't reset the service interval.
I'll have to wait and see if the service light comes on. The car has done 9500 since its last service so I'm surprised I haven't seen it already.
probably easier to change the wheel slave cylinder than to get the snapped off bleed nipple out......
they corrode because the brake fluid around the threads absorbs water and also the rubber cap is often left off allwing water/road salt in......
a very light smearing of rubber grease on the the new nipple may prevent this.
Where did you obtain the SS ones?
they corrode because the brake fluid around the threads absorbs water and also the rubber cap is often left off allwing water/road salt in......
a very light smearing of rubber grease on the the new nipple may prevent this.
Where did you obtain the SS ones?
I got SS bleed nipples from CCS Fasteners
M7 fits the rears
M10 1.25 looks like it will be right for the fronts but I haven't checked yet.
I tried my best with the bolt remover, but the snapped rear nipple is determined to stay in there. I see that someone is breaking a SX4 on ebay so have asked them for a price.
I'm surprised to be having all this bother with what is probably the newest car I have ever worked on. The rear bleed nipples screw in at a rather strange angle so it is possible that one got its thread crossed.
M7 fits the rears
M10 1.25 looks like it will be right for the fronts but I haven't checked yet.
I tried my best with the bolt remover, but the snapped rear nipple is determined to stay in there. I see that someone is breaking a SX4 on ebay so have asked them for a price.
I'm surprised to be having all this bother with what is probably the newest car I have ever worked on. The rear bleed nipples screw in at a rather strange angle so it is possible that one got its thread crossed.
All sorted.
New rear wheel cylinder about £23 from ebay. Fitted in a couple of hours along with an M7 stainless bleed nipple.
I tried my M10 x 1.25 bleed nipple on the front, but the thread is too coarse. Should be M10 x 1.0 but haven't bought to confirm.
I'm not sure I will bother with the fronts, as the M10 nipples are a lot tougher so less likely to snap. Plus I have quite a collection of wrong-sized stainless bits now
New rear wheel cylinder about £23 from ebay. Fitted in a couple of hours along with an M7 stainless bleed nipple.
I tried my M10 x 1.25 bleed nipple on the front, but the thread is too coarse. Should be M10 x 1.0 but haven't bought to confirm.
I'm not sure I will bother with the fronts, as the M10 nipples are a lot tougher so less likely to snap. Plus I have quite a collection of wrong-sized stainless bits now
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