Rubbish service from Main dealer

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Rubbish service from Main dealer

punto5dr said:
I can fully understand where you're coming from where main dealers are concerned. The dealer in amersham (bucks) took my punto in for a full service (when my mum owned the car), and they forgot to put water back in the radiator! Luckily i was there when my mum picked the car up and me always being cautious of main dealers always make sure they've done the job before driving off and spotted the empty rad. It could have ended in a buggered engine, i bet the dealer wouldn't have sorted that for free eh?

Ooooops!:rolleyes:

Probability will mean things like this will happen due to the sheer number of cars going into garages on a daily basis,however it is a very basic mistake & a costly one! I think the garage would of 'forked' out to get it sorted much to their embarresment!
 
We can't condem fiat dealers as all manufacturers have dealers that can give problems. Local ford dealer forgot to fit new spark plugs on the mrs's ST24 120k service :eek:
 
I'll willingly pay dealer prices to the right dealer. I avoided my local Fiat dealer because of the problems I had with warranty work, so I wasn't prepared to give them my hard earned money and went independent for the service, but that's not to say I wouldn't want to have used them if I thought the service was deserving enough.
I'll be using my local Vauxhall dealer for all work because they have been nothing short of amazing so far :worship:
 
This is my approach to main Dealers.
I always buy from a main dealer with a good reputation, and try to maximise the future power I will have in the relationship.
To this effect I have found smaller independant dealerships outside the main dealer franchise system to be both better to deal with and yet themselves more vulnerable in a confict situation.
IMHO, The vulnerability is in adverse publicity, particularly in the local press.
I always present to them as friendly and get to know all the staff and techs by first name.
I like them to use my first name and get away from being called Mr.
I have found reasonability if the car has faults to be key.
To be honest this approach has worked wonders with things being done for free even outside the warranty.
IMHO, being angry in the showroom is a non starter, it may get a result but the future relationship is ruined.
You are also on their territory and they have witnesses if anger takes you into slander territory.
IMHO if *persistant* reasonableness does not bring results, as the LAST RESORT a phone call going for the main vulnerability to a Dealership secretary is the way to go.
I believe in giving them time to think, and that a direct confrontation with the service manager or principal is at this stage best avoided ( of course having discussed with them both extensively before this stage is reached)
In this situation I believe a customer has much power over a supplying dealer and of course there are are human inerest stories ( of how you have suffered because of the car or feel like parking it outside the dealership with a board on a roof rack. "I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THIS FIAT !" the local press love so much. ( care of course with the potential legal aspects of this)
IMHO It would be a brave Dealer who risked adverse publicity, after all, some of them even donate to charities on their website so revealing how IMAGE is so important to their business.
 
Although I agree with what you say its a pity people didn't feel as strongly & protest/mouth off about car tax/insurance/fuel prices/electric bills/gas bills/council tax rises/bank charges etc...it seems to be the 'British' thing to slag car dealers (everyones a mechanic ain't they) while allowing themselves to get shafted by everybody else!
 
T14086 said:
Although I agree with what you say its a pity people didn't feel as strongly & protest/mouth off about car tax/insurance/fuel prices/electric bills/gas bills/council tax rises/bank charges etc...it seems to be the 'British' thing to slag car dealers (everyones a mechanic ain't they) while allowing themselves to get shafted by everybody else!


:yeahthat: the brits are always getting shafted by utility companies but are guttless when it comes to fighting for a fair deal (n)
 
T14086 said:
Although I agree with what you say its a pity people didn't feel as strongly & protest/mouth off about car tax/insurance/fuel prices/electric bills/gas bills/council tax rises/bank charges etc...it seems to be the 'British' thing to slag car dealers (everyones a mechanic ain't they) while allowing themselves to get shafted by everybody else!

I`m not slagging car dealers though.. (Although I know you are talking in general)
I have a good relationship with a local Fiat dealer and long may it remain so.
I accept your point about utilities, but this is a Fiat forum and some people have tales of real suffering with some Dealers.
Many years ago I bought a Fiat 126 from a dealer that has long ceased to trade.
4 months old and a transaxle bearing failed.
It was off the road 3 months waiting for parts from Italy and the Dealer only eventually gave me a loan car after I put a consumer organisation onto them.
The Mechs were fine as always. It was the guys running the place and they were quite happy to see me shafted ( very visible in their attitude) and without a car.
You tend to remember things like that ;)
 
As stated in newspaper yesterday....."its fashionable these days to slag off car dealers"
With comments like these read by a big percentage of the population what chance have car dealers got to inspire customer confidence?
Agree with what your saying Mikk but the experience you had was obviously a long time ago (fiat 126!) & dealers are changing staff all the time,infact in areas where 'performance' is poor staff are moved around to improve things.I for one was moved for this reason not that i'm complaining as I think Fiat are a good company to work under:D .............now about that pay rise:rolleyes:
 
I am not fashionable (ask anyone who knows me) and I am not jumping on any band wagon, but the english way is to put up with shoddy service. Six weeks and STILL no van. Parts have arrived, fitted and new parts ordered. WHY DOES IT TAKE SO LONG TO GET MY VAN FIXED??????????

I cannot work effectively at the moment, so I am losing money hand over fist with a massive increase in fuel consumption (10mpg) with the courtesy van, £1.50 per day parking permit, lost income, repeated trips to dealer to pick up tools from the back of my van.

Actual cost of having a courtesy van. £100 in extra fuel and £42 in parking permits.

I have tried to be nice and smiley, but patience is wearing VERY thin at the moment.

I may see it in time for the MOT to be carried out in October.......
 
I got my van back for 12 hours. Collected it and was told that everything was ok. Went out to it the next day to find a pool of brake fluid under it! Vehicle was recovered to the dealers on the back of an AA truck. Everyone hid when I showed up!. Don't know why. Turns out that the seals had been damaged during assembly by the techs.

That day cost me £300 and 2 very upset customers. WHY DO I BOTHER!!

Not sure what has been happening cos I have been in hospital with a brain haemorrage! Stress related apparently!!

7 weeks and counting...........
 
T14086 said:
:( Oh dear really sorry to hear this!

It's no consalation I know but i'm ot 100% sure it was tech/dealer fault,there has been a few issues over these seals.I trust another has been ordered?

The seals has been so chewed up that there was no hope of them holding fluid. It now turns out that the second servo was faulty!! What is going on with fiat quality control?? :bang:
 
Thanks mate. Was not aware that parts are sourced from Peugeot, but would make sense as the vans are very similar. Hopefully, the issues will be sorted soon. Just a quick question, how many parts are in common between Fiat, Citroen and Peugeot??

I still have issues with the service dept, but the workshop controller and the techs have been very helpful and they are just as embarrassed.
 
Van is now back. All seems to be ok. The van has been properly road tested (by the amount of fuel used (that is not a complaint)) and the tech is happy with it. I think that all the service team have road tested the van. One of them said that it goes well. Lets hope it stops as well!! Booked into the body shop for 10/07 for the dent to be attended to and the rust problems sorted at the same time. That will do for me!! Thanks for the help and advice from all forum members. I may be back!!!!!
 
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