ash i was just saying if you shop around you get the prices you want and considering ive only owned the car 3 months id say i still have a bit of time to select my front and rear speakers as i like my music too much to drown it out with the so called boom boom boom and i dont listen to dance rave tehcno or hip hop stuff for the music i isten to i need volume for the voices the subs and amps are just the extra icing on the cake for when i finish the stereo set up