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Thanks, that’s perfect. I bought 1l from shop4parts and was hoping it would be an enough. Did you get the perteonas tutella transmission gearforce? I’ll save those posts for bedtime reading about priming the pump. I have MES if needed too. I’m hoping to run a magnet through my old oil to see if I have any metal shavings in there. I suspect my rear differential is causing some issues but thought this would be a low cost first step.Its specified in weight... It equates to something like 365cc if I remember right. Search on here there has been some recent discussion and a procedure for changing it was identified. The diff contains a pump and this needs to be primed and the diff topped up after. I was pretty suprised how little oil it contains. I bought the oil from S4P but have not changed it yet. I sure l litre does nearly three fills.
2013 Panda Twin Air 4*4 gearbox and diff oil change | FIAT Panda (2012+)
Hello! I'm looking to get the oil changed in my gearbox and diff on my Panda. I know it's not got a transfer box unlike the diesel but I can't find the correct specs for the oil anywhere, can anyone help? I've searched the forums but can't find anything definitive. Thanks in advance!2019 319 4x4 Rear diff capacity | FIAT Panda (2012+)
That’s the impression I have, yes. Fill, exercise the diff, fill and seal up. Done.
Yes Tutela. There were another few posts re oil. A 'competitor' oil was suggested then someone else added that this oil and its maker had failed OIl Industry Test Standards. This both reinforces and confirms my view that sticking with the makers recommendations is best. Twin air oil, and Panda 4x4 diff oils do quite a lot of work. Anything even slighhtly substandard is unlikely to do the required jobs well for more than a limited time. Many makers dont do an oil which they recommend for the 4x4 diff which says much to me. Im going to change my oil then thinking of driving it slowly on the road forward then backwards as required to prime it and then top it up. I can easily do the underneath stuff over my pit so jacking is not needed. My road is quiet and its flat.
The ref to gearbox and differential is the front differential, which is contained within the gearbox (on 2WD as well as 4WD.
When you say the rear differential oil is different do you mean different grade as well? I have ordered tutela transmission gearforce because that’s what the manual said but I hadn’t considered it was talking about the front differential. Hoping to get the car up on the ramps this weekend and change it. I might fit some dampeners to the rear brakes while I’m under there too and see if I can get rid of the noise they make.
Somewhere on here there is a more detailed filling procedure to ensure the clutch portion of the diff is filled - I think there is a bit more to it than wait till it comes out of the fill plug??
Here we are...
In the TA the gearbox and rear diff have different oil. The diff oil seems to be pretty specific in its requirements Tutela Cross available in 500ml bottles for diff and Tutela Technyx for the gearbox. I have seen dampeners for teh rear discs on Mopar uk site and also on eBay but you need to watch and wait as the price varies hugely from one offering to another. I have then on my Waze as it was delivered and the brakes have so far not made the noise so they do seem to work. Maybe you could get them from a breaker there is certainly a waze on eBay breaking at the moment.
Thanks. Seems I bought the wrong transmission oil. I will send it back and get the transmission cross one because I bought the gear force one. I was looking in the main manual and I had forgotten about the little 4x4 addition booklet and like yours mine mentions the rear diff and the transmission cross oil and the volume required. Thanks everyone!
That image is for the older 169 model supplement I think (based on the graphic design of the pages)
No it from the 312 from a 2013 vehicle 4x4 supplement .
I stand corrected
(Its a while since I sold my 2012 4x4)... My 2017 and then 2018 models had it all in the one book. I edited my reply above to include all the relevant lubricant info pages as it may be of use to those reading this thread at a later date
Yes, I have the same on my 2013 TA but I had forgotten to check the 4x4 supplement. Had only looked in the main manual.
Thank u!
Have you changed yours?
They dont do it correctlyI Useful to see but not done properly so not all the oil would have been changed and they clearly didnt know what they were really doing. Inside the diff is a pump controlled by a solenoid. The whole point of the special oil is to cope with both the differential gears while accomodating the pump. There is not a lot of point in leaving 25% of the old oil unchanged insid ethe pump.. Might as well not bother.
