Technical Problem with electronic anti-theft-device

[Irgendeiner]

I'm unsure what engine details mean, so I'm attaching the vehicle registration document. Does it contain the information you are looking for?

 

[Communicator]

@Irgendeiner your English is excellent, but perhaps we are losing something in translation. I have not tried to show a relay, but only indicate a connection to one on another diagram.

For explanation I am attaching diagram E1010-2, which includes the Engine Bay Fusebox (B001). Trace the wire cnnecting to terminal 85, of T09. That is the connection that I was indicating.

I await your engine details.

Thank you. The engine capacity is 2800cc, so it is a 2.8jtd, or Sofim 8140.43s, which number should be on the VIN plate, but it could have been 2.3jtd, or 2.0jtd.

Unfortunately their are six variants of the basic 2.8jtd.

1. Does it have EGR? See attache pdf, which contains line diagram of rear view of engine, The circular EGR valve (5), and the cooler (3) will be visible.
Engines fitted with EGR also have a Mass Airflow Sensor at the air filter ouput.2,
2. Is fuel filter body a metel cannister, or is does it have a plastic body. Filter is on bulkhead near air filter.
3. Is cold starting device a Flame Starter, or a Heat Flange? Flame Starter is most common, and may be identified by an electromagnetc fuel valve and single glowplug/fuel injector mounted on the inlet manifold.

It took me some time to realise that my 2006 all black fuel filter is what the diagrams refer to as a "Green" filter. Also as I was expecting glowplugs I had to realise the significance of the valve and single glowplug on the inlet manifold.

 

[Communicator]

Thank you. The engine capacity is 2800cc, so it is a 2.8jtd, or Sofim 8140.43s, which number should be on the VIN plate, but it could have been 2.3jtd, or 2.0jtd.

Unfortunately their are six variants of the basic 2.8jtd.

1. Does it have EGR? See attached pdf, which contains line diagram of rear view of engine, The circular EGR valve (5), and the cooler (3) will be visible.
Engines fitted with EGR also have a Mass Airflow Sensor at the air filter ouput.2,
2. Is fuel filter body a metel cannister, or is does it have a plastic body. Filter is on bulkhead near air filter.
3. Is cold starting device a Flame Starter, or a Heat Flange? Flame Starter is most common, and may be identified by an electromagnetc fuel valve and single glowplug/fuel injector mounted on the inlet manifold.

It took me some time to realise that my 2006 all black fuel filter is what the diagrams refer to as a "Green" filter. Also as I was expecting glowplugs I had to realise the significance of the valve and single glowplug on the inlet manifold.

Missing file attached

 

[Irgendeiner]

I'm sorry, but I don't know enough about the innards of such a vehicle to answer these questions.

The attached photo shows the engine compartment. If that doesn't provide the necessary answers, please tell me which part of it I should photograph up close.

 

[Communicator]

I'm sorry, but I don't know enough about the innards of such a vehicle to answer these questions.

The attached photo shows the engine compartment. If that doesn't provide the necessary answers, please tell me which part of it I should photograph up close.

Thank you for your reply and photos.

Very interesting, as your engine is an 8140.43N, which is referred to as the "Power Version", of the 2.8jtd. I have only seen one or two others mentioned on this forum. Significant difference is that the engine has a vacuum operated variable vane turbo. Engine power output increases to 107kW from the 94kW of the standard version. Maximum torque is 310N-m, against 300N-m, and at a lower engine speed of 1500 rpm against the 1800 rpm of the standard versions. It should have better pulling power.

On your first photo immediately to the right (vehicle LHS) of the brake fluid reservoir, with yellow cap I can just see the fuel filter with orange electrical connectors. It appears to be the plastic bodied filter, which is reffered to as a "Green" filter. (Later filters were partly green.)

I will assume that the cold starting device is the flame starter, the components of which will be hidden below and behind the black plastic hood at the rear centre of the engine bay. The flame starter is the more common method.

Unfortunately I do not have edited diagrams for the 8140.43N, but the following link should take you to the correct "4cardata" page.

E5050 DIESEL ENGINE ELECTRONIC MANAGEMENT WIRING DIAGRAM - Fiat - DUCATO - eLearn - 4CarData

 

[Irgendeiner]

I'm going on holiday with the camper for four weeks and will then report back on how everything went.