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Panda (Classic) Pandamonium

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Panda (Classic) Pandamonium

The Repo'cento has a surprisingly high seat so I was thinking of chopping the box and mounting the sub under the passenger seat once it's dry.
 
It's arrived! :slayer:

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And the sub-box is sold to pay for it. :)
 
Guff II

Oh yes. 866 the number of the beast! :slayer:

So I have the 1368cc block, 1108cc head, 1272cc (866) cam, 769cc distributor and now I have a pair of...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230782987...NX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_500wt_1373

...TDM850 carb's. Now I just need some Duct-Tape and Guff II will have an engine. ;)

Summary...

1368cc block was with a complete engine I paid £50 for.
1108cc head came with an engine and gear box I paid £32 for.
The cam' was £34
The Distributor came with the car.
Carb's £16
Fuel pump £10
Car itself £170
Roll cage material £73
Seat and Harness £30 (from Guff I)
Pollycarbnate front windows (from Guff I) £46
Brakes (also from Guff I if they'll fit) £100-ish
Wheels (Punto GT from Guff I) £34
Paint £20

£615

£384 to go. :)
 
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Already on my watch list but they look cack and need new tyres. The black ones were tidy enough to fit right away.

They need a serious amount of work if they're salvageable at all.
 
Re: Fantasia

Liquid Knight said:
I've never been a fan of these...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300704343...AX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_768wt_1356

...they're like a default setting for Mini and MG's but could look okay on a Panda.

What does the collective think?
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Being a lot older than you I quite like them, but only when they've got a deep dish. Because of the offset of the Panda you can't get any outer rim without the wheels being outside the arches. Even the ones listed would stick out too far. :(
 
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Fantasia

That was one of the good things to come from Japan. The 4x114.5mm stud pattern from the MGB was only available on redrilled Wellers, Scimitar Slot Mags and Minilites. Unless you got the original Roystyles banded but they were fragile without any extra load.

The 200SX I used as an engine donor for my 71 GT also donated the brakes and set of Compomotive MO's as well. ;)

I had a set of deep dish Minilites (10x7) on my 1275 Cooper. Swapped them for a set of Stramags after going to a show and there were 73 cars with the same wheel tyre combination. 10x8's with Yoko A008's. Poo to a blanket territory and used to upset a lot of high end stuff on track.
 
Guff II

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170834093...NX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_500wt_1373

I was worried about the 1108 head fitting the 1368 block. So I found a 2008 Panda head for a Pound. £1 a Quid. ;)

I sent the seller a message suggesting they re-list it if they're not happy with the price but are insistent they don't want it any more. So best case scenario it's basically a Punto 60 head and the 866 cam and distributor will fit; okay scenario the 2008 valves will be in much better condition then the 1997/1998 valves in the 1108 head and are an straight swap; worst case scenario I list the head and make a profit. At least I get to take the Fantasia on a road trip to Coventry to collect it later in the week. :)
 
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Guff II

Good news; bad news today...

Good news. The TDM carb's arrived and I can start thinking about fabricating a manifold.

Bad news. After an interesting road trip to Coventry to get the 2008 Panda head I get it home to find although it fits the 1368 2003 Punto block the cam is about a centimeter longer and thicker at the bearing end. Also the head is longer as well so the cam belt wouldn't go round the top pulley. Worst of all there's no way of fitting a distributor so even if the 866 cam', 16V belt and other bits fitted I'd have no way of making it run.

£20 worth of petrol and half a day to get myself a cool paper weight. ;)

I'll finish stripping the spare 1108 head in the morning to see if it fits the block and once it's belted up I'll see if the crank and cam turn in harmony. Failing that I'll have to tune the Guff out of the 1108. ;)
 
Guff II

I mocked the engine together the other day while I had an expert handy. ;)

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The X-1/9 carb' in place for now the TDM carb's are a back up plan (even though the TDM carb's and fuel pump were cheaper than the Webber).

One problem due to the block being taller the cam' belt from the both the 1108 and 1368 16V engines are too short...

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...I'm advised that the Punto 75 belt will fit but there a local supplier who make custom belts to length.
 
Guff II

So the standard 1108 cam' belt is...

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...1015mm long and the belt needs to be...

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...1020mm long.

Hmmmmmm.... :chin:

Any ideas how to get engine grease from a tailors tape measure? ;)
 
Guff II

Ah-haaaaaa! The Cinquecento Sporting has two different size cam' belts. One with 104 teeth and the other has 125 teeth. The Punto 75 has two different belts as well. One with 108 teeth and the other has 129 teeth. I assume this is for power steering or something even more sinister.

All I need to do when I get home from work tonight is count the number of teeth on my old belt instead of measuring it and get the next size up. :)
 
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