General Panda 2024 - Issues or is it normal?

[Bonefish Blues]

+1 I've had many, many things block up on my cars over the years, but never these.

 

[Peter Pick-Up]

Never yet had a washer jet block - and I’ve been driving since 1981… just use a good screen wash additive to keep the water clean

Only with distilled water.
Not everywhere drinkingwater is free of lime.. (hard water)
It will block partly the jets, causing a wrong stream, aiming at everything but the windshield..
I have to use this device only once or twice in a couple of years, but glad I have it...!!
(Been driving since 1977...)

 

[The Panda Nut]

Never yet had a washer jet block - and I’ve been driving since 1981… just use a good screen wash additive to keep the water clean

You must have been very careful, and not a little lucky! But I agree re the tool. I use a single strand from a wire brush its worked for the last 50 years and costs nothing. Ive lost count how many times jets have blocked. Once it happens it seems to be hard to stop it happening over and over. I used to carry spare jets in the car when I had a CItroen. What you say does emphasis the point that care is required to ensure no rubbish gets into the water. I probably add to my problems by only using rain water. It works best, I dont know why, acid rain maybe. The trouble is its easy to get bits in it. I swirl the water tank and take from the middle which is a pretty good way to keep the water 'bit' free. I havn't had a Panda jet block, maybe the different design helps keep things running.

With a new car I would ask the garage that doesnt stop the leak for a written 15 year guarantee on the bodywork rotting from the resulting wet carpet in lieu of a fix. This might focus the mind. A leaking new car is not fit for purpose. Their problem is this could take days to find before thinking of a fix so tehy are understandably reticent about wasting time..

Ive had the pipe come adrift under the scuttle but never wet feet as a result. I would have a good look at the grommets in the fire wall and make sure they are all present and well fitted. Check the one at the base of the steering column.
I would recommend taking the wiper arms off and removing the scuttle as then you can see what is going on. You really need a mirror of a stick to look behind the engine.

A poorly glued screen is a remote possibility too. My rear screen has started leaking. I keep this at bay with Holts Seak n Seal every few months but its irritating as Im well out of warranty.

 

[jrkitching]

Condensed water collected from a dehumidifier is great for diluting both screenwash and antifreeze.

 

[crispyy]

use it with care, not force

You would need to be extremely careful with a metal tool. The jets are made completely out of plastic, and a metal tool would easily deform it.
A deformed jet "hole" would either mean the water sprays unevenly, or just plain wrong and miss the windshield completely. It could also easily cause a clog or partial blockage depending on how the plastic deforms.

The safer bet would be using something as thin as possible like a needle, or somethin made of plastic like bristles from a kitchen brush or a toothbrush. If this doesn't help, replacing the jets is the way to go.

This is tho if your jets even clog in the first place. Here in German people usually use distilled water to mix with the additive, as tap water is extremely hard and would cause limescale buildup.

just use a good screen wash additive to keep the water clean

Only with distilled water.
Not everywhere drinkingwater is free of lime.. (hard water)

Like I said above, here we usually use distilled water. I don't think anyone should risk tap water, unless they know with 100% certainty that their tap water is soft.

I used to carry spare jets in the car when I had a CItroen

This is the way to go I think, if you have issues with the jets. I imagine it's not that complicated replacing the one on the Panda. Plus the fact that you can adjust it with a flathead screwdriver means you would have an easy time aiming it after replacing.

ensure no rubbish gets into the water

I don't know about y'alls Pandas, but mine has a removable screen inside the filler tube. Bigger debris would be caught by it and not end up in the tank. It might not be fine enough for sand or something similar tho.

 

[Peter Pick-Up]

You would need to be extremely careful with a metal tool. The jets are made completely out of plastic, and a metal tool would easily deform it.
A deformed jet "hole" would either mean the water sprays unevenly, or just plain wrong and miss the windshield completely. It could also easily cause a clog or partial blockage depending on how the plastic deforms.





Like I said above, here we usually use distilled water. I don't think anyone should risk tap water, unless they know with 100% certainty that their tap water is soft.

The tool is for people who know how to use it....

And about using distilled water, 99% don't care and use tapwater, or ready mixed (tapwater..!!) screenwash...!!

 

[Big gerry]

My panda is 14 years old and doesn’t use any oil from service to service it’s a twin air and I use genuine oil since I bought it 5 years ago 5 w40

 

[Peter Pick-Up]

My panda is 14 years old and doesn’t use any oil from service to service it’s a twin air and I use genuine oil since I bought it 5 years ago 5 w40

It's a Euro 5 engine then.
Euro 6 use 0W30 C2 oil.