General Oil sump!!!

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General Oil sump!!!

l0586

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Hi all,

I've just looked under my car and noticed this (see attached picture) should I be worried as it looks in a bad state?

TIA.
 
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Quite common which means new replacement sump (not from fiat) cheap.
The only difficult bit can be getting the old one off as it disintegrates
 
How much should I be looking for a sump replacement?
DIY under £50; independent garage using aftermarket parts, £200 - £250, main dealer using OEM parts £600-£800. Add to that the cost of an oil & filter change.

Check also the condition of the rear twist beam around the spring pans; if that's in a similar condition it's going to need replacing soon and whilst the parts aren't that expensive, labour charges will be if not doing it yourself.
 
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Does anyone know on the forum if there is anyone around the Norfolk area what does work on the pandas or point me in the direction of a garage?
 
They didn't galvanise the sumps on these... I remember it happening to mine. But it could be worse... VW uses alloys ones that crack altogether which I bet can lead to some horrific failures.

Local motor factors part is your best bet, likely in stock too as it's a common repair.

Even after a few years, depending where you live and the salt in the air / on the roads, they can look pretty rough on otherwise fresh cars
 
I0586 NICK HARPER, Norwich looks after abarths and fiats and alfas, a lovely chap to have a chat too as well.
Always lots of abarths I there, hes got some lovely motors. Alfa 4c, Aries atom, ferrari abarth, another abarth special.
Reasonably priced I thought on work on my abarth and panda
 
All booked in for oil, filter and sump change for around £220.
Having done this job recently myself, I'd say that's a very good price. It's the amount of time and items like the exhaust that you have to remove first that can cause the problems, the nuts on mine didn't even resemble the look of a nut for example, breaking that seal anyhow, you'll need a new gasket and paste for example.
 
Having done this job recently myself, I'd say that's a very good price. It's the amount of time and items like the exhaust that you have to remove first that can cause the problems, the nuts on mine didn't even resemble the look of a nut for example, breaking that seal anyhow, you'll need a new gasket and paste for example.
Any specific tips? I have just cleaned off and given 3 coats of hammerite to the very poorly item. I note the one tucks into a recess, do the brackets around this need to be removed? Are there screws under there? Do you use a gasket or sealant or both? From where?
 
Any specific tips?
If you're attempting to prolong the life of an existing sump, use a grease/oil/wax based product; not paint.

With paint, moisture inevitably gets between the paint and the metal, allowing corrosion to continue unseen beneath the paint.

You need a non-hardening product that is capable of self repair if (when!) it gets chipped.

You can do a lot worse than wiping an oily rag over it after every oil change.
 
If you're attempting to prolong the life of an existing sump, use a grease/oil/wax based product; not paint.

With paint, moisture inevitably gets between the paint and the metal, allowing corrosion to continue unseen beneath the paint.

You need a non-hardening product that is capable of self repair if (when!) it gets chipped.

You can do a lot worse than wiping an oily rag over it after every oil change.
That’s why I went for the hammerite, it more a chemical coating than a paint in the conventional form. The other option, but I have run out would be POR15 chassis black. Waxes/oils coats are only temporary coatings. With the sump being hot wax will trend to migrate. Better in chassis cavities, sills, doors etc. They do add an additional level of protection, but better over a welI prepared paint or simple coating. have lanolin coated over the paint on the new sump guard I fitted.
 
How long have you had it? It unusual to get rust on the oil filter between services unless it's been left too long.
 
If you're attempting to prolong the life of an existing sump, use a grease/oil/wax based product; not paint.

With paint, moisture inevitably gets between the paint and the metal, allowing corrosion to continue unseen beneath the paint.

You need a non-hardening product that is capable of self repair if (when!) it gets chipped.

You can do a lot worse than wiping an oily rag over it after every oil change.
Mine's ahd waxoyl on the sump since new. 10 years on and no sign of corrosion. It seems to have hardened off now
 
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