General no PAS - can i drive it

[baggers]

Hi, have warning lights saying PAS failiure, Airbag failiure....this is following on from my last thread, they came on after changing the battery...still not solved problem...what i need to know is if it is safe to drive it a couple of miles to the garage with out the PAS, or will it bugger anything else..i know it will be hard steering it...cheers

 

[Sparky1483]

you can but it will be bloody heavy.

 

[baggers]

thanks, just concerned that it might damage it, and end up costing a packet...but if it wont i'll drive it to the garage...Tar

 

[dan-the-man]

i drove mine 10 miles with no PAS, my arms ached

 

[bigjohn1]

Can't resist this, once upon a time cars didn't have power steering, it was many years before I had a car with it, I think the first may have been a cavalier on a B plate, in about '84 ish.

 

[jostheboss]

They also didnt have all the fluid and pumps attached that make it so hard to turn a wheel when its not working!

My first cars didnt have power steering - certainly wasnt as hard as it is to drive the Stilo without power!

 

[Deckchair5]

Dear me yes it's almost undriveable without the power steering functioning. But before you go off to the garage and collide with a few cyclists along the way (who will sue your arse) have you checked through the Stilo Guides for curing a bad battery earth? The fact you lost all those systems after changing your battery then I'd check your main supply voltages as the power steering won't come on line unless it has a full voltage supplied and the airbag warning will also appear.

Do what it says in the Stilo Guides as I've explained it pretty clearly there i hope

 

[dan-the-man]

Can't resist this, once upon a time cars didn't have power steering, it was many years before I had a car with it, I think the first may have been a cavalier on a B plate, in about '84 ish.

My current car doesn't have PAS and I think it's better than the fiat electric power steering, but it hasn't got a big heavy engine over the front wheels so it's quite easy to turn

 

[Sparky1483]

right lets clear things up

before power steering, cars had something called geared steering, like gears on a bike, were you pedal really fast and go slowly, same concept.

unfortunatly on modern cars, you can't have both, so a pas car, when it fails is just you, and the wheels, no geared steering, like reaching down and trying to turn the wheels with your hands.

it shouldnt be quite so bad when your moving.

and yes i have had cars without power steering

better still, it had a choke, now thats how you learn to drive, propper old fasioned mechanics

 

[dan-the-man]

better still, it had a choke, now thats how you learn to drive, propper old fasioned mechanics

a choke, bloody annoying things!

 

[Sparky1483]

a choke, bloody annoying things!

nah they were great, if used well, and serviced propperly.

once my car was warm, and you were moving, at say, motorway speeds, i could pull the choke out and get more fuel to match the extra of going faster, it bloody shifted for a metro, got caught doing 115 chasing a merc that cut me up on the m6, copper though it was so funny he let me off with a warning

 

[dan-the-man]

once my car was warm

That's the annoying part, before they got warm

 

[Sparky1483]

That's the annoying part, before they got warm

hunting and kangarooing

 

[Argonought]

....got caught doing 115 chasing a merc that cut me up on the m6, copper though it was so funny he let me off with a warning

Not these days though Red :shakehead:

Getting caught doing 115 is bad enough but as for racing on the public highway :nono:

 

[Big Black Stilo]

i have driven a stilo with dead steering and it is too heavy to drive properly. Suggest if it has to go to a garage, and its a bit of a drive, its trailered there.

I also have had cars without power steering, and still have one that doesnt have it, although heavy is nowhere near as heavy as a car with broken pas.

 

[Sparky1483]

Not these days though Red :shakehead:

Getting caught doing 115 is bad enough but as for racing on the public highway :nono:

oh yeah was 7 years ago, wasnt racing, was chasing down

still dont condone it, learnt my lesson about a year later