Technical My experience at Grays of Warwick

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Technical My experience at Grays of Warwick

maybery

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I thought I would drop a post to see if anybody had a similar experience with servicing at Grays. Generally, this dealer has a better reputation than most Fiat dealers. My experience was as follows;

i. My Stilo (1.8 2-dr dynamic) was booked in for a 48k mile service on 24th July 2006. The appointment was courteously made with Fiat and the car duly serviced. Grays called me at work to say that the work was finished and I accordingly picked up the car on Monday evening. So far, so good.

ii. The bill was £269, which I thought was a bit steep, but typically what I paid when servicing a Rover 620SLi at a franchised dealer. I am using a franchised dealer, so you would expect to pay more as you are paying for higher quality Fiat servicing..

iii. I always check work after a service and was disappointed to note that the oil level was only half full. Having paid £28 for two litres when the owners' manual states a sump capacity of 4.2 litres with a new filter, is it any wonder the oil level was low. I duly topped it up but I wasn't impressed.

iv. A few days later I noted that the bumper surround local to the front nearside wheel was dented and the internal wheel liner not fixed in properly. The mechanic had changed the air filter by yanking back on the bumper surround. What annoyed me that he/she hadn't bothered to fit the wheel liner properly and dented the bumper. I've straightened it out (or at least as much as I can) and it's now barely noticeable, but it's indicative of a sloppy mentality.

v. I also noticed a bit of trim loose inside the car which forms part of the lower gearlever surround - the bit of trim adjacent to your left foot which you rest against in lieu of a proper foot rest. I'm convinced it wasn't loose before the service but would wonder why a mechanic would undo it as part of a service. Again, I refitted it in about 45 seconds and it clipped into place with a bit of brute force.

vi. I mentioned a diesel like noise on start up (which the Forum seems to believe is a Variator problem). I was advised to monitor it after the service (fair enough I thought at the time). The noise is still there. I'll live with it for now as it's intermittent, but it's clear Fiat knows what it is but they just don't say anything....

vii. I mentioned uneven tyre wear to the man at the service reception who you pay. Nice bloke but seems to know very little. He reckons high wear is down to the car's power (133 bhp no less). This is reasonable if it was even, but its not - the offside wore much more quickly than the nearside and Stilo's have a notorious reputation for tyre wear due to incorrect steering/ suspension geometry. Why can't you speak to the mechanic who services your car and not just a glorified clerk?

I took the advice of a thread in the FF about pumping the tyres up as per the full load capacity. It worked and the car definitely tracked more linearly. THe Silo really is very sensitive to tyre pressure.

So, after all that above, I would rate Grays as follows;

i. Administration/ organisation/ courtesy etc = 8/10

ii. Servicing quality = 5/10 (I don't expect my car to come out with new cosmetic defects and a low oil level).

Maybery

As a foot note, I received a service reminder for JCS Kegworth who I bought the Fiat from (crystal green previously owned by S Addison). They were good and I would have preferred to have the car serviced by them, but they just too far away. I like in Warwickshire and they're up in Loughborough. Stuart, if you read this thread, the air-con is still working perfectly...

The car's MOT was due yesterday - it's booked in with a local garage who service my wife's car. They're independant and good, and will be servicing the Fiat next as well.
 
Having just read a thread about pollen filters, now I know why the plastic trim was removed an dnot refitted properly - all it took was a bit of manual dexterity - sloppier still at Grays....
 
why cant you speak to the mechanic... i'd assume its because he's a 16 year old spotty oik of a (trainee) spanner monkey, as thats all i saw when i last went there to pick up a few bits for the turbo cinq, and the cinq got a load of stick from affore mentioned "mechanics" there too, in future my bits are coming mail order from MK or northampton :)

Edit: the parts desk and guys inside were nice as pie though, but i prefer to get my parts from somewhere my car wont get insulted :idea: :D
 
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Noise could be anything not just variator & yes you can always speak to the DET (part of his/her) job but please remember that they are busy so dont go on about how you had a misfire 2 years ago & your mates uno is in minted condition etc otherwise they will be happy to help;)
Sounds as if oil level was checked before engine started &thus dropped when oil filter filled up.
Have you taken car back to get it sorted/phoned them? I'm sure they will rectify it to your satisfaction.
 
Grays have always been good to me, except their "forecourt manager" had a very poor attitude once . . .

iii) I'd have no issue with that, I was always told that the dipstick should be at half anyway. It doesn't mean the engine is half full, the dipstick channel is usually measuring the last litre of oil.
iv) Got my car back yesterday and noticed that my inner-wheel arch liner has been "cut" at the corner :eek:
v) Can't excuse that. It's an easy job and should have been fitted back on properly. If the clips were loose they should have been replaced; you're paying to have the car properly serviced so trim should be in the state you left it.
vi) Had this replaced on my Stilo yesterday. If it's doing it whilst just cold, it may be just the oil and tappet noise. Mine was doing it whilst warm and sometimes hot, so variator got done and engine sounds so much better.
vii) Indeed, incorrect setting from factory; should really be a known thing, and if mechanic was unavailable, it should have been noted on the job form.
 
It's good to see some replies to my post on the FF. I won't reply directly to each contributor as I'm too lazy a typist, but I would say the following;

i. With hindsight I should have got the car MOT's at Grays but I had forgotten about it. It was MOT'd today and failed due to a broken front nearside suspension coil (on a 3 year old car!). I've never had a spring failure before and will find out the cost t replace it tomorrow at my local non-franchised garage. I'm surprised it wasn't spotted by Grays.

ii. I cannot agree that the dipstick level should only be half way up. It's true the dipstick only registers the last litre or so in the sump, but I always religiously keep the oil level topped up to the top level on the dipstick. The way my Stilo drinks oil I need to...... I would expect Grays to as well and to allow for filling of the oil filter.

I'm just about to see how much coil springs typically cost. :confused:
 
maybery said:
It's good to see some replies to my post on the FF. I won't reply directly to each contributor as I'm too lazy a typist, but I would say the following;

i. With hindsight I should have got the car MOT's at Grays but I had forgotten about it. It was MOT'd today and failed due to a broken front nearside suspension coil (on a 3 year old car!). I've never had a spring failure before and will find out the cost t replace it tomorrow at my local non-franchised garage. I'm surprised it wasn't spotted by Grays.

ii. I cannot agree that the dipstick level should only be half way up. It's true the dipstick only registers the last litre or so in the sump, but I always religiously keep the oil level topped up to the top level on the dipstick. The way my Stilo drinks oil I need to...... I would expect Grays to as well and to allow for filling of the oil filter.

I'm just about to see how much coil springs typically cost. :confused:

Yes I would agree on the oil consumption part; our 1.6 Stilo doesn't drink a drop but the 1.8 does. Our 1.8 Brava used to, as did the Barchetta and the 2.4 Schumi (which is a derivative of the 2.4). Must check my oil tomorrow :p
 
maybery said:
i. With hindsight I should have got the car MOT's at Grays but I had forgotten about it. It was MOT'd today and failed due to a broken front nearside suspension coil (on a 3 year old car!). I've never had a spring failure before and will find out the cost t replace it tomorrow at my local non-franchised garage. I'm surprised it wasn't spotted by Grays.

I'm just about to see how much coil springs typically cost. :confused:
You should lodge this issue with Fiat. There's a good chance they’ll replace BOTH front springs at their expanse. It's a common problem - search the forum :)

Real pity you didn’t have the MOT done at Grays though :(
 
Argonought said:
You should lodge this issue with Fiat. There's a good chance they’ll replace BOTH front springs at their expanse. It's a common problem - search the forum :)

Real pity you didn’t have the MOT done at Grays though :(

Argonaught is correct they do replace the springs but you will need to lodge a case with Fiat and get a case number before the dealer car deal with it see my thread "Broken spring" and all will be revealed (y)
 
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