Ducato Multiecuscan help info
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Ducato Multiecuscan help info
Hello,
Go to multiecuscan.net, find the proper model / engine, you'll see the adapters you need to connect to the modules you want to connect to.
For the 2,0 - 2,3 - 3,0 diesel engines you need the following:
The green adapter is required for the 2,2 diesel.
I've bought a bluetooth interface STN1170 for FIAT and Ford and can connect to all modules. I've got also a KKL cable which I've bought years ago for my alfa. But it needs the colour adapter to connect to other modules.
I've read here that gendan is a reputable, very helpful seller. Could check with them, too.
Go to multiecuscan.net, find the proper model / engine, you'll see the adapters you need to connect to the modules you want to connect to.
For the 2,0 - 2,3 - 3,0 diesel engines you need the following:
The green adapter is required for the 2,2 diesel.
I've bought a bluetooth interface STN1170 for FIAT and Ford and can connect to all modules. I've got also a KKL cable which I've bought years ago for my alfa. But it needs the colour adapter to connect to other modules.
I've read here that gendan is a reputable, very helpful seller. Could check with them, too.
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The different OBD2 readers are used for the different type of buses/ protocols used on a vehicle eg J1850 LINBus CANBus and other protocols like KKL (originally VAG) different coloured adaptors are used to swap the pin configuration to connect to different module. The type of bus used is dependant on age eg a modern duke uses CANbus and a yellow adaptor.
this will guide to correct setup required
this will guide to correct setup required
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Seanwinder22
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Yes I have buddy I’ve done the vehicle and bought the pack needed but they sent every colour 7 total leads
I understand I need green it said
I just thought why have they gave me 2 obd readers the elm blinker and this kkl
It didn’t explain much just one may be 7 pin
I don’t like to try something until I have more understanding or fry the ecu
But I’ve done lots of research today and just using the vlinker and green adapter is what I need out the package
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Thanks yes mate I’ve been reading this tonight
just making sure I wasn’t doing damage using the kkl with green I new I had to use the green I was confused with the x2 obd they sent me this vlinker and kkl
Have you used the mes to do the kiss point and clutch bleed
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Sounds like you've bought a complete kit of software, VCIs and all possible adapters that allow you to connect to any vehicle that the software (MES) supports. You could have bought a licence for MES alone and sourced an appropriate VCI and adapter cable separately. If you have the vLinker MS VCI it works just like the CanTieCar multiplexer with the current version of MES, so you won't require any adapter cables whilst using it on an X250 or X290.
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Yea looks that way
He asked what can I had I told him
He asked what I wanted to do which was clutch kiss point and tcu relearn he gave me this kit
theoneandonly
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No I have a manual . @Fredastaire can you help with this matter. I see the need for speed NO the need for a guide.
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@Seanwinder22 @theoneandonly , I have a 2017 Ducato 130 with comfortmatic.
Earlier this year I changed the clutch fluid. First vacuumed out the round tank with a vacuum syringe kit. Second refilled with clean new brake fluid. Connected Vacuum syringe pipe to the bleed nipple of the slave cylinder, released the nipple , memory says circa 1/8 turn anticlock, syringed out dirty fluid, watching the reservoir level drop. Kept on topping up the reservoir as needed. Closed the bleed nipple and removed the kit supplied plastic pipe. Topped up the reservoir to circa 6mm from top. Carefully rotated the cap anticlock until I felt it drop on to the thread start then screwed clockwise carefully, it's not a good fit so be careful that you are screwing correct as cross threading is a risk.
Connect MES and select the calibration. The instructions are clearly written on the screen page. I think I had the MES ready to click, then started the engine and immediately 'clicked'.
It takes seconds to calibrate, you don't feel or hear anything. Stop engine and restart..
Please beware that I'm working from memory, just read the instructions and follow.
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I was staggered with the smoothness after the calibration sequence. It was notchy before
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I intend repeating early next year.
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Please do let us know how you get on.
Earlier this year I changed the clutch fluid. First vacuumed out the round tank with a vacuum syringe kit. Second refilled with clean new brake fluid. Connected Vacuum syringe pipe to the bleed nipple of the slave cylinder, released the nipple , memory says circa 1/8 turn anticlock, syringed out dirty fluid, watching the reservoir level drop. Kept on topping up the reservoir as needed. Closed the bleed nipple and removed the kit supplied plastic pipe. Topped up the reservoir to circa 6mm from top. Carefully rotated the cap anticlock until I felt it drop on to the thread start then screwed clockwise carefully, it's not a good fit so be careful that you are screwing correct as cross threading is a risk.
Connect MES and select the calibration. The instructions are clearly written on the screen page. I think I had the MES ready to click, then started the engine and immediately 'clicked'.
It takes seconds to calibrate, you don't feel or hear anything. Stop engine and restart..
Please beware that I'm working from memory, just read the instructions and follow.
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I was staggered with the smoothness after the calibration sequence. It was notchy before
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I intend repeating early next year.
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Please do let us know how you get on.
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Thanks mate I’ll have a proper read when home just in traffic I have done the manual bleed in the same way you mentioned
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Read it all now
Yes last week I changed and bled clutch
I also did hydraulic and gearbox oil change
So want to do anything in mes now
Is this all you used the calibration?
Last year when I had the issues I was given the details to do this in mes but I found the issue in the harness so didn’t bother but since had issues with brake switch so thought while here get everything done but can not find the thread
But was given this to do
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For clutch calibration on mine it says this
1 Press execute bottom engine off
2 start engine
3 wait for 5 cycles
4 turn key off wait 15 seconds then key to mar
But I was told you need to drive 300 metres
see what I mean about information overload
I can see on YouTube for Fiat Alfa it does show drive 300 metres
1 Press execute bottom engine off
2 start engine
3 wait for 5 cycles
4 turn key off wait 15 seconds then key to mar
But I was told you need to drive 300 metres
see what I mean about information overload I can see on YouTube for Fiat Alfa it does show drive 300 metres
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Can someone please help with multiecuscan ??
Clutch calibration
Tells me to execute while engine off key on in neutral
But on screen it never leaves in progress ?
While it’s in progress do I then start the engine or what
Because I’ve tried many times and won’t leave this
Clutch calibration
Tells me to execute while engine off key on in neutral
But on screen it never leaves in progress ?
While it’s in progress do I then start the engine or what
Because I’ve tried many times and won’t leave this
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Ive not done this procedure but many others
Is it actually in progress or waiting to staRT EG press Y or click on Execute.
Is it actually in progress or waiting to staRT EG press Y or click on Execute.
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Some posts matching "clutch calibration" that might be worth reading on the MES forum:
One, specifically related to the Ducato and clutch calibration dropping out without processing, resolved the issue after fitting a new vehicle battery.
I've never attempted this myself, but I assume the temperature requirements explained in the image taken by the OP were met? Some procedures won't run unless the specific conditions are met, or if they do, might not complete satisfactorily. And stage 2 as shown in the image does say "Start the engine" although more text may be obscured by the "In progress" overlay box on the screen.
One, specifically related to the Ducato and clutch calibration dropping out without processing, resolved the issue after fitting a new vehicle battery.
I've never attempted this myself, but I assume the temperature requirements explained in the image taken by the OP were met? Some procedures won't run unless the specific conditions are met, or if they do, might not complete satisfactorily. And stage 2 as shown in the image does say "Start the engine" although more text may be obscured by the "In progress" overlay box on the screen.
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It says what I posted mate in progress please wait and nothing happens so I don’t start the engine because it’s connecting
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I have Victron software set up that monitors the starter and leisure battery even a trickle charger my battery is always sat at 12.6v always
Bought new last year 110 ah
No start issues
But this will not calibrate
Even in the parameters says not performed
Yea engine temp was 80 to start but waiting that long dropped to 76
I think it’s because I have a few codes that won’t clear for lambda sensor I will try resolve this weekend
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When it says in progress, it means that the procedure has been activated. But it won't continue because it is waiting for you to follow the next step and start the engine. When it recognises that the engine is running, it should operate the clutch 5 times within 60 seconds, after which you should turn the engine off, wait at least 15 seconds and turn the key to MAR.
I might be wrong, but I don't think the box is asking you to wait until it tells you to start the engine. It's tyelling you to wait for the function to complete, but it won't do that unless you follow the instructions on the right of the screen. I know it's not very intuitive, but I've seen similar instances that can probably been explained by the author's native language not being English. Start the engine anweay, It will either continue the activation or stop it and maybe give an error message. It won't do any harm other than not completing the calibration if it fails.
Before starting the procedure, select the engine and clutch temperature parameters in the Parameters screen of MES, and ensure that the temperatures exceed those required to complete the procedure successfully - engine temperature greater than 80C and gearbox between 20C and 150C according to the procedure for the Selespeed box I'm looking at in MES. There is no mention of driving the vehicle so presumably that's not required to complete the function for the Ducato box, although stated in instructions for different vehicles.
And yes, if you have any fault codes current or stored, this and any other procedure might refuse to run or not run correctly. It's always a good idea to fix and clear any codes before any programming functions are executed..
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Yea your wrong sorry
You go do anything in adjustments once you execute it comes up in progress then connects and starts procedure
