Tuning iam looking for a little advice

[c16per]

hi iam looking for a little advice, ive got a seicento schumacher 2001, i want to upgrade the exhaust and maniflod, ive been looking to get a stanless steel one made, but theres not a great chose of garages where i stay ( in angus scotland) so i looked on the net, can anyone help with where to look? to but a foff the shelf one?, i also googled abrath do they sell ones? i could only find bits for a punto, are any of punto bits useable? is there a better maniflod to use?

thanks

 

[nmrmak]

Some people here have gone for "Supersprint" manifolds, i have absolutely no experience so just giving you something to google for.

 

[syaochan]

Also look for CSC and TA-Technix

 

[rallycinq]

2001 will be MPI so the cat is in the manifold (manicat).

I don't know whether a performance manifold has been made for this application.

Cheers

SPD

 

[ycming]

2001 will be MPI so the cat is in the manifold (manicat).

I don't know whether a performance manifold has been made for this application.

Cheers

SPD

Ermm not just get a mani, and cut the cat out a spi cinq? As am pretty sure the supersprint has 2 lambda holes.

Ming

 

[c16per]

cheers ill look into it, does any body know if anthing else would have a same manifold? say uno - panda punto?? my dads had lods of unos and pandas hes off to see if he can find uno bits? say uno turbo ie

 

[Brooky]

CSC for manifolds every time

 

[c16per]

i but wheres best to buy one "csc".... i found /www.gazzella.cc any good

 

[allanhelen]

Ermm not just get a mani, and cut the cat out a spi cinq? As am pretty sure the supersprint has 2 lambda holes.

Ming

Not that easy as you need a post cat lambda for the MPI otherwise the ECU throws a wobbly

You can use the one on the SS manifold but would need a lambda boss welding after the cut up cat,

The CSC would be no use as that is basically a decat

 

[ycming]

ON performance fiat, someone was able to run the car without the second lambda with no problem from the ECU. am sure he put up a guide on how to do it.

Ming

 

[richydraper]

this may be quite obvious in what im about to say but i dont know much about headers/gassflow atm.

couldnt you get a custom built SS manifold and use a sports cat?

surely any performance fabrication company would let you tell them what u wanted from the exhaust then build it around your requirements!?

 

[ycming]

this may be quite obvious in what im about to say but i dont know much about headers/gassflow atm.

couldnt you get a custom built SS manifold and use a sports cat?

surely any performance fabrication company would let you tell them what u wanted from the exhaust then build it around your requirements!?

Aye that will cost an arm and a leg compared to buying an already developed product .

Ming

 

[richydraper]

a custom manifold will cost more than £220?

 

[blu73]

:yeahthat: I'm with richyraper on this one. Its gonna be expensive yes but so is a performance manifold. It may cost a little more but you get to choose exactly what you want from it, how it sounds and what type of tail-pipe(s) you want.

I've not ever seen a performance manifold for the mpi seicento anyways so this might be your only option.. Exhaust manifolds from another fiat will be pointless as they aren't performance manifolds anyway. An inlet manifold from an Uno45 will fit and is apparently a good upgrade but i have not seen/driven a car with one fitted so can't really comment on how good an upgrade it is or whether it even fits the mpi models.

 

[c16per]

i cant find a company to make me a manifold ( well where i live up scotland) they will all do a custom made exhaust from manifold back, so i need to buy the manifold and then get the rest made

thanks for the advice

 

[blu73]

I'm suprised a custom exhaust place can't knock up an manifold tbh. But as i said before i've not seen or know of a performance manifold for the mpi engine so buying an off the shelf one is gonna be tricky. I'm not that clued up on these more modern systems with pre and post CAT lambda's but i assume it must be possible to decat it (my dads 2003 mercedes SL has just had decat without any issues and i'm sure the electrics on that are more complicated than a seicento lol). In which case you maybe able to source a spi manifold and use that but you may still new it customising in some way.

To be fair, if the exhaust place told me they couldn't make a manifold i'm not sure i'd trust them to work on my car, not really a big deal, it really should be within their capability. Certainly places round here would do it.

So as i see it, you have 2 options now:
1 - buy a spi manifold and hope it'll fit (a good search of the forum may let you know if this is possible)
2 - Go further afield for a custom jobbie.

 

[ycming]

Seriously is custome made manifold around £200? Where abouts?

richy or blu, have you guys had this done? pics?

Ming

 

[blu73]

no i haven't, not never looked into custom exhaust on my NA car only my turbo which obviously has a completey different manifold to what we're talking about hear. I never said it would cost £200, just that performance manifolds are bloody expensive as it is, you could spend more than £200 on one as it is.

 

[allanhelen]

I've seen custom manifolds for kit cars advertised at starting from £380 +vat so they are not cheap

 

[blu73]

a seicento one is gonna be quite simple though as far as manifolds go