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Hi all at present im looking for a diesel ulysse i would like your help in which endine is the best and are there any common problems to look for also can you tell me which model is top of the range got my merc 4 sale at the moment when sold i start hunting around thanks
 
It depends on the age of the Ulysse that you are looking at...

The entry level was the S model, this has PAS, Elec Front Windows, Central Locking (Remote locking if it still works), Front fogs.

The Top end was the EL, This had the same as the S, but with 6 electric windows, headlamp washers, Climate control, Electric Mirror, Power folds mirrors, ABS, Passenger airbag, half body colored fron bumper, nicer interior, mine has seat back tables, and captain seats (They turn round to face the rear passengers, great for picnics, not that the kids are allowed to eat in the car!).

The Mk1 Ulysse's had a 1.9 TD Diesel engine, it was essentially the samunit as the Peugeot XUD engine that was fitted to 405 and early 406. Very strong, and proven engine.

later mk1 Ulysse's had the JTD Engine. This is the same as the PSA (Peugeot/Citroen) DW10 (HDi) engine. It was available as either an 8v (This is what I have) or a 16v.

There were issues with all these engines;

The XUD had reports of thrown rods, too many to attribute to low oil levels, it seemed to affect the 1997-1999 engines more. Althoguh they all went at prett low mileage, so any such units should have been replaced by now.

The 8v JTD (HDi), these had issues with the high/low pressure pumps; Basically the low pressure (Lift) pump (In the tank) wold break up, and send bits of debris through the high pressure pump stuffing this up too, and into the injectors, mullering those too.

The 16v wasn't without its issues either, some of them where part belt driven, and part chain driven. And he chains would sometimes snap without warning, obviously, this would then mean the pistons inviting the valves down for dinner!

Obviously, I know that there are many good and bad examples of either out there, and a lot depends on the previous owner. The service interval of the Hi units is 12k, but personally, I would do it evert 5k, just to be sure the oil is clean.

I cant advise much on the Mk2 Ulysse'sas mine is a Mk1.

Hope this helps.
 
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Hi,
Don't know where cipher gets the info but I know the priming pump gives a bit of bother, usually about €150 for a new one as for it sending bits to the injector pump and injectors RUBBISH, it would have to pass through the filter first. Part chain and part belt!!!!!!!, never came accross one of those engines, they have a belt and are usually very reliable, belt needs to be changed along with water pump ,tensioner and idler bearings. I have run these engines both 1905 and 1997 HDI for years on several vehicles, all have had very high mileage, 200K+ with no problems, I currently drive a 1997 1.9 EL TD with 170K and an 2003 JTD with 105K, both have just been treated to timing belts water pumps and all tensioner and idler bearings including aux drive belt for alternator, P steering pump and air con. Regular maintenance keeps these engines running very well. Electrics are a bit of a problem on the newer models. Best of luck
Tony
 
Hi im hoping to get this y reg ULYSSE JTD EL with 102 miles and 13 stamps in the book looks nice and it should pull my van no problems and alot more room than my merc
 
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Y reg means nothing to me, we have a year reg which is much easier, what year is it? I presume it has 102K miles with a service history. Once timing belt has been done etc it should be OK, watch out for the pulley on the crankshaft, they used to disentegrate and take out the timing belt as well, depending on year it should have the modified pulley. check for rattle on tickover a sure sign of a suspect pulley. Good luck,
Tony
 
Hi i have got a 2001 jtd el i am so happy with its not bad on fuel but the engine light has come on it runs ok but the lights in any idears is it somthing common
 
Hi,
Y reg means nothing to me, we have a year reg which is much easier, what year is it? I presume it has 102K miles with a service history. Once timing belt has been done etc it should be OK, watch out for the pulley on the crankshaft, they used to disentegrate and take out the timing belt as well, depending on year it should have the modified pulley. check for rattle on tickover a sure sign of a suspect pulley. Good luck,
Tony

I know this is an old thread but I have a 2.2 JTD (Nov 2003 33,000 miles actually built in November as it was to order, so I was told) which is making more noise then usual from the inside of the drivers front wheel. It could be normal diesel engine noise as it's not quite a rattle and if I rev slightly it seems to go but as there have been so many stories regarding the failing of the crankshaft pulley I am getting a bit paranoid. On very quick inspection from the side the interior of the crankshaft pulley wheel looks solid. I had a look on the Eurovan site which had some photos of the wheel etc . and also a document which mentioned that anything from build number 10248 should be ok as it has the modified part. At least that's what the document seems to be saying.

Does anybody know what build number they are referring to? I thought it might be engine number but my engine number (from log book) has a totally different number pattern.

Thanks

Lou
 
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get it checked asap by someone who knows what to look for .
mine made a funny noise once ,when i checked under the bonnet the aux belt was badly frayed so i drove it home ,thought i would sort it out later , big mistake aux belt jumped into cam belt :devil:
got it sorted 6 months later , only cost about £3000 though:cry:
 
Have had it looked at and was advised it did have a bit of play in it so as it was no where near as expensive as going to fiat I have had it changed.
 
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