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Aha, here they are on a red Panda. mmmm, looking good
(and if you ever wondered how heavy a back seat and a tank of petrol was...)
(and if you ever wondered how heavy a back seat and a tank of petrol was...)
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Always liked these in black. If you can find a cheap set
Aha, here they are on a red Panda. mmmm, looking good
I could just paint my wheel trims black to achieve a very similar look
I can see a drop coming on to fill those arches
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Guess what came in the post today
That's right all the way from Italia a set of not quite genuine side trims :woot:
Now, I don't want to spend a fortune on trim fixings - called spring moldings - which attach the trims to the door as :
1: cost - .50 euro each plus p+p from Germany of all places
2: don't want to drill my little car full of holes either.
So, I was thinking along the lines of silicone (cheap and can be removed if needs be), I've heard of tiger seal but never used it so a bit wary tbh, also I've heard it's impossible to remove items stuck on with it.
What do people think, any other suggestions?
Tiger Seal would do the best job, not sure Silicone sealant would hold them on very well. It is possible to remove items stuck with Tiger Seal but you won't get it off your paint without damaging it. Might it be possible to use double sided badge tape?
Do Fiat not still sell the fixings?
I can't see how you'd do a non-permanent (and neat) job without drilling the door and using the fixings myself...
I can't see how you'd do a non-permanent (and neat) job without drilling the door and using the fixings myself...
How about the sticky number plate fixings? 127's have sticky strips along the edges of the plastic trims - admittedly they are also bolted on, but a good quality double sided number plate fixing should hold even the long ones in theory. Don't buy from Halfords though as theirs aren't strong enough.....
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The only trim that may possibly have to be removed at some point is the small piece that covers the bottom door hinge bung in the front wing. That one is probably small and light enough to stick with badge tape.
The rear trim piece utilises the stone chip guards holes so again probably ok with tape.
That leaves the biggest trim, the door trim, subject too most vibrations and possibly knocks. Here's a couple of pictures:
I think I need to attach at least two if not three of the five 'spring molding' pegs as they are called. I've no idea how they are meant to hold onto the door though:
I think I may be better off using coach bolts!
Isn't the hole in the door only big enough for the top bit to go through? The trim then slides onto the gap which is now just outside the door? Trim holds the plastic bit in place and the plastic bit holds the trim tight to the door. I'm guessing so it could be twaddle......
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Isn't the hole in the door only big enough for the top bit to go through? The trim then slides onto the gap which is now just outside the door? Trim holds the plastic bit in place and the plastic bit holds the trim tight to the door. I'm guessing so it could be twaddle......
It's a good as guess as any at the moment!
I remember Adam taking the trim off the selecta door to show me the dent at the inaugral Panday and could have sworn the pegs were on rubber mounts? All along time ago and didn't really look properly
Perhaps VmanC would be so kind as to have a look and take a picture or two when he gets around to fixing the electric windows for Panda Mo
I've ordered some double sided foam tape, try the simplest method first!
Drivers side needs some spray can attention for the door to change colour from orangey red to red red. The more I look into spraying the whole door the more daunted I get. The passenger side door bottom was easy and could have done with doing again but I don't look at that every time I get in the car so I'll wait for the rust to come back through and redo it then.
The clips work like a rivet. You put the fat end (at the top of the photo) into the hole in the door and tap the other end into it. That expands the fat end so it is held tight, similar to the clips used for the rear arch protectors. The trim then slides into the clip.
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Ah ha! It all makes sense now thanks
I'll check how much local dealer wants for them tomorrow.
You will probably have to buy 50 or something like that, I got some for my Sisley from a place on Italian eBay, postage for just the clips might make it just as expensive though.
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Otherwise, try here...?
none of those look right unfortunately
If I'd thought on I could have asked the Italian supplier to send clips WITH the part
We are all wise men with hindsight
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The germans want 28 euro's for 20 clips. e18 of that is for p+p
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I get mine from the main dealer, they're not cheap but it's convenient and probably no more than anywhere else.
If you like I'll check I have enough and sell you some of mine ( cost price ) rather than you having to buy more than you need. Plus to save you postage, I'll pop them in with Pinky's exhaust rubber.
If you like I'll check I have enough and sell you some of mine ( cost price ) rather than you having to buy more than you need. Plus to save you postage, I'll pop them in with Pinky's exhaust rubber.
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That would be great, thanks.
Total number of holes is 16 if you can spare it, if not will make do with whatever you can spare.
Also have you got some new plugs for the rear stone protector, could do with 4 of those if you have them as mine didn't survive been removed very well.
Thanks Vernon :worship:
That would be great, thanks.
Total number of holes is 16 if you can spare it, if not will make do with whatever you can spare.
Also have you got some new plugs for the rear stone protector, could do with 4 of those if you have them as mine didn't survive been removed very well.
Thanks Vernon :worship:
Ok, will see what I have.
CLS, I have some spare secondhand clips I could post to you if you're looking to save £. I've fitted them in the past to doors (like yours) which don't have the pre-drilled holes. Method: cut the plugs off the clips so that the clips will now sit flush to the door. Drill or push out the remaining part of the plug from the clip (so there is now a hole in the middle). Use a self tapper to attach this to the door (have drilled a small pilot hole). Works quite well. Handy to have the measurements from an existing door to know where to place the clips.
Let me know if you want some!
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Let me know if you want some!
David
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Thanks for that David
Always interested in saving money (should'nt have a Panda then really I suppose
), please standby with those used ones if Vernon's are in short supply. It would be handy to have those hole measurements too if you've a door on hand - a photo with a tape measure running against the door holes would save a lot of messing about if it were at all possible -
I don't know where I'd be without the help from everybody on this forum.
Thanks all :worship:
