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Hi, I'm new to the forum.
I have a 2002 51 Seciento SX, 1108. When I bought the car in March, I was on the other side of the country, so my dad bought it for me.
He test drove it around some private land and told me it felt a lot faster than the Cinquecento that I also have. He insisted that the cambelt needed doing as he always does when he buys secondhand cars, to be on the safe side. (We didn't know it was a non-interference engine at this stage, we just knew the belt hadn't been done, it had 38,000 on the clock and we had the service history) So he took it in to Glyn Hopkin Fiat and they changed the cambelt and water pump, as they said that was leaking.
After the cambelt change my dad drove it again and it was different. Less power (After I drove it, it seemed only a little more powerful than the 899 Cinq (less than I would expect for 200ccs more) and it is idling roughly. This wasn't very pronounced however (the rough idling)
We took it back to Glyn Hopkin Fiat and one of the mechanics drove it and said 'this is completely normal for a Seicento, they always do that when idling.' To desribe it better, it sounds like it's dropping revs slightly every few seconds, and this shakes the car (you can even see the rear window shaking).
Now the car has now done around another 3000 miles and the rough idling has been getting worse all the time. I have noticed that the fuel you put in it affects this too, and it seems it gets worse when you're sitting in traffic and the engine is hotter.
Nevertheless I'm thinking the timing is out. My dad has experienced several vehicles where the timing's been out and he reckons so too.
So today, armed with a Fiat Cinquecento Haynes manual and tools, I took out the headlight, took off the expansion tank and moved it to one side, took off O/S front wheel, took out wheel arch liner, took off cambelt cover and now I'm stuck. I need to work out how to check that the cambelt isn't one tooth out, and that the timing is right.
There's a picture in the manual about lining the mark on the camshaft sprocket up with marks on the head, but my head looks completely different to the one in the manual (Prob. because it's not a Cinq Sporting like the one in the manual) and I can't seen any kind of marks at all. Furthermore I really don't know what to do next to check it's correct after lining those marks up (if I could even see any marks).
Can someone who knows please help me?
Thanks in advance
Graham
I have a 2002 51 Seciento SX, 1108. When I bought the car in March, I was on the other side of the country, so my dad bought it for me.
He test drove it around some private land and told me it felt a lot faster than the Cinquecento that I also have. He insisted that the cambelt needed doing as he always does when he buys secondhand cars, to be on the safe side. (We didn't know it was a non-interference engine at this stage, we just knew the belt hadn't been done, it had 38,000 on the clock and we had the service history) So he took it in to Glyn Hopkin Fiat and they changed the cambelt and water pump, as they said that was leaking.
After the cambelt change my dad drove it again and it was different. Less power (After I drove it, it seemed only a little more powerful than the 899 Cinq (less than I would expect for 200ccs more) and it is idling roughly. This wasn't very pronounced however (the rough idling)
We took it back to Glyn Hopkin Fiat and one of the mechanics drove it and said 'this is completely normal for a Seicento, they always do that when idling.' To desribe it better, it sounds like it's dropping revs slightly every few seconds, and this shakes the car (you can even see the rear window shaking).
Now the car has now done around another 3000 miles and the rough idling has been getting worse all the time. I have noticed that the fuel you put in it affects this too, and it seems it gets worse when you're sitting in traffic and the engine is hotter.
Nevertheless I'm thinking the timing is out. My dad has experienced several vehicles where the timing's been out and he reckons so too.
So today, armed with a Fiat Cinquecento Haynes manual and tools, I took out the headlight, took off the expansion tank and moved it to one side, took off O/S front wheel, took out wheel arch liner, took off cambelt cover and now I'm stuck. I need to work out how to check that the cambelt isn't one tooth out, and that the timing is right.
There's a picture in the manual about lining the mark on the camshaft sprocket up with marks on the head, but my head looks completely different to the one in the manual (Prob. because it's not a Cinq Sporting like the one in the manual) and I can't seen any kind of marks at all. Furthermore I really don't know what to do next to check it's correct after lining those marks up (if I could even see any marks).
Can someone who knows please help me?
Thanks in advance
Graham