Technical Fault Code 22 (Carbon Filter)

[GhostWKD]

Got the cinq a diagnostic today and have been advised to ask you guys about this error code;

Error 22 - Carbon Filter (whats a carbon filter? lol, is it that big thing with a blue pipe going into it? )

Average Engine Idle 848rpm
Injection Timing 0.7ms
Advance 8-13 units (jumping from 8 to 13 to 8 to 13 etc)
Air pressure 300 (not sure what units)
Air Temp 35c
Coolant Temp 93c
Throttle Pos 9.3units
Stepper Motor 24steps
Step Reference -7

Not sure anyone can make sense of any of this [?]

Cheers in advance For any help,

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[cwmbranfc]

all i know bout the carbon filter is that its totally pointless its just for e.u regulations to bring emmisions down. thats wat my mate recons n e way [?][?][?]

 

[GhostWKD]

hmmm, so this wouldnt be the cause of a funny start (the car starts then gurgles cough splutters and stops, then starts again fine) and hesitation (cough gurgle vrmmmm lol, gotta love my technical descriptions )

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[Bushboy]

mine gurgles coughs and splutters if u nearly make it stall. just like my uno did although my uno never recovered from a near stall and would sit at "nearly stalling" revs for about 5 minutes and would then nearly stall itself at every junction untill you turned it off and left it for 30mins...

however, me telling you that doesnt help your problem whatsoever

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[HP]

Originally posted by GhostWKD
hmmm, so this wouldnt be the cause of a funny start (the car starts then gurgles cough splutters and stops, then starts again fine) and hesitation (cough gurgle vrmmmm lol, gotta love my technical descriptions )

Could be, it might be drawing off the petrol vapour when it's not supposed to.

Might be linked to it having been bashed out of the way mind....

Pete.
1242cc cinq, turbo cinq, Cinqs&Seis Yahoo group, Clubcento

 

[surfin_fella]

yeah, i don't think the fact it hangs off your car helps!lol

Sie
Black 96P Cinq Sporting
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[GhostWKD]

so its not meant to be hanging that low? just gets better and better doesnt it lol

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[surfin_fella]

wel put it this way, mine is level with the bumper. Yours has the Abarth lower bumper and your filter still hangs lower than mine!lol

Sie
Black 96P Cinq Sporting
OMP Strut Brace, Apex -40mm kit, GSR F1i Induction, Pioneer ICE

 

[alfanige]

Alex, I still think your car is over fuelling. The error that came up on that Carbon Filter could IMO, be caused by it being overwhelmed by the amount of fuel vapour.
Nige

Alfa Romeo 156 2.4 JTD (210BHP)
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[GhostWKD]

hmmm, well like i mentioned briefly, it is doing about 180 miles to a full tank, although to be fair some of my driving is somewhat enthusiastic

not sure what the next step is to be honest

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[arc]

180, you are kidding me [:0]

down to stanford mine did aronud 340miles from one tank, and with me tanking it round country lanes up here it still did over 200


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[GhostWKD]

180 is country lanes mainly, and when i say "full tank" i mean till the light will be on constantly (about £24 petrol, at 81.9ppl)

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[HP]

I get up to 270 miles on 27 litres - i.e light just staying on in the 1242. You're looking at around 28mpg there, that's awful. Lambda sensor, anyone?

Pete.
1242cc cinq, turbo cinq, Cinqs&Seis Yahoo group, Clubcento

 

[alfanige]

LOL, Lambda sensor checked out OK. I may have one in the pile though if you want to take a gamble.

Alfa Romeo 156 2.4 JTD (210BHP)
Fiat Punto JTD (130BHP)
Fiat Barchetta

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[HP]

Funny thing with the Lambda sensors is they don't always bring the warning light on when they've retired. 28mpg is showing something's wildly amiss, I've managed to drag the 1108 turbo on 15"s down to 26mpg with a severe hammering, so it shouldn't be possible on a n/asp one.

Pete.
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[GhostWKD]

but surely it would still be brought up in the diagnostic? wouldnt it?

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[dawozere]

If it doesn't set the light off then the ecu thinks its normal, but doesn't mean it is. My lmabda went, no light, no fault code, but replaced at my mpg went up a bomb

 

[GhostWKD]

well there is defo something other than this wrong im 99.9% sure of it

what its doing;

when moving off at junctions it'll either; Backfire and then go, cough splutter and go but with powerloss and then as it gets nearer the redline will suddenly pull to full power kinda thing
when starting 50/50 chance it'll cough splutter and need starting again

plus the bad mileage as per mentioned

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[HP]

SOunds like a Lambda sensor would be the most likely culprit.

Pete.
1242cc cinq, turbo cinq, Cinqs&Seis Yahoo group, Clubcento

 

[alfanige]

Alex, I forgot and you didnt text me! I will be a the National day and try and remmeber to hoik you a Lambda out for a cheap fee ;-)
Nige

Alfa Romeo 156 2.4 JTD (210BHP)
Fiat Punto JTD (130BHP)
Fiat Barchetta

http://www.angeltuning.co.uk
http://www.bravo-guide.co.uk THE Fiat Bravo site