Technical EV conversion 500?

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Technical EV conversion 500?

There is a company in North wales who specialise in converting cars to 'electrical', including a 500. They did a TV program regarding the 500.Trouble was (other than taking a perfectly good engine out of the car) finding the space for enough battery power to give the car a decent range. The range of the car they converted was only about a 50 miles. Sure, it accelerated very rapidly, but to contain that extra performance resulted in the brakes and transmission having to be up-graded. The 500 is too short to enable it to have high cornering ability, so the electric conversion gives it makes it into a car where one has to be very careful when using all the extra speed that the conversion endows it with. Lastly, it isn't a cheap conversion!
 
I was reading an article the other day...
regarding EV power trains... it concluded that the IC engine is not dead..
the 2030 rule is that no more PETROL cars will be sold... the PUG consortium are already preparing to launch a Hydrogen fuelled van late this year, and the article was saying there will be a max range for EV power that basically is governed by weight and volume... and there are no new emerging research project that will improve this... so many ,manufacturers are looking at Hydrogen powered vehicles...

Yes there are the dangers and lots of other things but it seems the only realistic way of getting 600+ mileage ranges with a refuelling in minutes rather than hours is with something other than Electricity...
 
I was reading an article the other day...
regarding EV power trains... it concluded that the IC engine is not dead..
the 2030 rule is that no more PETROL cars will be sold... the PUG consortium are already preparing to launch a Hydrogen fuelled van late this year, and the article was saying there will be a max range for EV power that basically is governed by weight and volume... and there are no new emerging research project that will improve this... so many ,manufacturers are looking at Hydrogen powered vehicles...

Yes there are the dangers and lots of other things but it seems the only realistic way of getting 600+ mileage ranges with a refuelling in minutes rather than hours is with something other than Electricity...

That would be good in a Fiat 500N/D/F/L/R :ROFLMAO: ....maybe just fit an extra one and half petrol tanks.
 
That would be good in a Fiat 500N/D/F/L/R :ROFLMAO: ....maybe just fit an extra one and half petrol tanks.

You mean you don't get such high range?... it's that huge engine you have fitted...
you can fit double D tanks :) and a spare can in-between...
you'd be all set for the Paris Dakar...
 
Does anyone now if there´s EV-conversion kits for sale for DIY, and if so, what the prices are?

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There was a company in the UK IIRC that had designed a engine/trans/differential assembly that was close to as drop in as one could get right now. I dont remember the company name, i used to be extremely deep into EV drive systems both for my hobbies, and previous job.

Back in my high school days, i used to design and test with some pretty wild electric drive systems and built up some hot rod golf carts. For some time, i had one of the fastest electric golf carts in Canada in the mid 2000's, but as life went on, that hobby and time to do it diminished. AC drive systems wernt exactly mature enough yet, that's where the insane power/pound ratios really started to get excited. They really began to hit the "after" market in the late 2000's.

Nowadays, there's some pretty wild "semi assembled" AC kits on the market, and the influx of high amperage lithium bats, the possibilities are almost endless if you have deep enough pockets. If you want to do some homework, check out systems based on the Curtis 1238 controllers. Some companies sell kits with a corresponding motor based on the voltage and HP ratings that you might want.


Now in regards to electrifying the 500. Again i am in no ways dismissing EV tech and EV vehicles at all, but i personally have a strong dislike to seeing the 500 electrified. If you want to do a EV 500, by all means, go for it!(y) But with the 500 being a special car in its own right, i see it as a driving experience, a special one at that. And removing the simple gasoline engine literally removes a massive part of the soul and experience that is driving and enjoying a classic 500. The feedback, the noise, the power (lack of lol), is to me one of the main features of the 500 experience. Learning to finesse all the power from its 2 cyl's, planning shifts based on terrain, etc. Electrifying it, removes it all, and your left literally driving a tin box with some road noise.

Having experience a few "classic car" communities, the fiat 500 one really stands out as everyone does their own little mods and tweaks to these little nuggets, and there is minimal disgust towards what others do. Unlike a other community i encounter regularly (cough cough classic Mercedes purists), we all support each other even if things dont go by our own personal tastes. And i don't want to dissuade anyone from doing what they want from my opinion above.
 
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Does anyone now if there´s EV-conversion kits for sale for DIY, and if so, what the prices are?

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I know there are in the US. EV West will sell you a complete DIY kit for a Fiat 500. Last I looked, parts alone were about $16-17K USD, so not cheap. I would really really like to electrify my Giardi, but that is a high hurdle to overcome when I factor in the level of restoration that will be needed beforehand.
 
Not a 500, but I have a friend who converted a -54 Fiat 1100 to an electric runabout last year. According to him the current spec is as follows:

- 10kWh Battery
- 21kW motor - Restricted to 2800rpm
- Top speed of 60-70kph

- 70km of range



This is a deliberate "low end" spec that suited his specific purpose and budget, but he says both the range and performance could easily be enhanced with battery/motor upgrades.

The total cost for the project was USD 10K.
 
My friend just mentioned that with a 20kWh lithium battery he can get 120km range with the same 21kW motor. The 1100 is a heavier car than our cinquecentos, so it would stand to reason that we'd get a little more bang for the buck.
 
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