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simplesi22

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hi have fiat 500l semi auto in garage at fiat , they say selespeed oil needs topping up , if this doesnt work needs new selespeed, 1300 for part alone, does anyone know any independant specialists in south yorkshire who maintains fiats. ty si
 
The fluid shouldnt ever need topping up if the oil level is low the leak also needs to be found

And I hope a fiat garage would know to depressurise the system first before checking the levels as the oil level will be low while the system still has pressure in it
 
I can only think of 2 valid reasons for a low fluid level - a leak (which will need fixing) or a failed accumulator (in which case it will need a new accumulator).

Leaks can be internal seals, which are very hard to get hold of, or physical damage (split pipe, crack in reservoir, etc. caused by other work or accident damage)

The accumulator is a partially gas-filled sphere with a membrane. If the membrane fails, the gas leaks into the reservoir and the oil level drops by the amount that leaks into the reservoir.
They can be tested by removing and weighing.

As far as I am aware, there is NO other reason for a low fluid level. It is not a "sealed for life" system, but does not use or lose any fluid in normal operation.
The fluid does get discoloured over the life of the system, mostly from particles of seal. I recommend changing the fluid when replacing an accumulator, but I'm not sure that this is a required or recommended service step.

Just saying "it needs a top-up" tends to be mechanic-speak for "I don't understand it, have little or no idea how it works, and I'm willing to try something random to see if the problem goes away as fluid level is something I understand "
However, unless the level is checked using the proper procedure, the likelihood is that the system will be overfilled, potentially causing more damage.
 
the problem is the car keeps dropping into neutral when coming to a halt goes through gears fine when driving took car to stoneacre and this is what they told me ,as for repairs i phoned lots of garages and they say they dont touch the duologic box so struggling to find someone to help im in sheffield if anyone knows where i couldgo would be grateful ,the car also draining battery because pump on geaerbox wont stop thats reason i took car for diagnostic ty si
 
also draining battery because pump on geaerbox wont stop
More info please...

Sounds either electrical (broken wire, ecu problem, bad sensor, if pump is really running all the time) or accumulator (if pump is running a lot more often than it should, as there is almost no stored pressure).
Both are only guesses though.

The "going into Neutral" bit could just be the ECU going for the safest option it has available to it. Or it could be mechanical (failing clutch, worn gearbox, etc), stopping the actuator from selecting the desired gear.
 
they have topped it up with fluid and they sat pump wont stop running so it needs a new selespeed 1300 plus fitting ni confidence in them fetchin it back going to auction it cant find problem
 
they have topped it up with fluid and they sat pump wont stop running so it needs a new selespeed 1300 plus fitting ni confidence in them fetchin it back going to auction it cant find problem

So they basically don't know what they're doing. Rather than fix the actual issue they're just opting to replace everything, at your expense, hoping that this might sort the issue. (n)

Where are you located?
 
So they basically don't know what they're doing. Rather than fix the actual issue they're just opting to replace everything, at your expense, hoping that this might sort the issue. (n)

Where are you located?


South Yorkshire

Already advised to try somewhere with better knowledge and labour rates..

But reply appears to be based on the FIAT dealer network ..?
 
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